GGG has as much blame here as Wilder in the Povetkin fight.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MVC!, Apr 3, 2018.


  1. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    No, the man pissed hot twice. There's excesivwe evidence he was juicing , masking peds. Took them way after the ban date. Your opinion doesn't matter here. What matters is the fauked tests and what we found in his system

    His rep is ruined and we know he's a serial cheater....
    Wrong, hw pissed hot, twice. He was never truly cleared. We know what was in his system .
     
  2. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's no evidence at all that he had any illegal amount of illegal peds in his body. Not once! Which is why he was cleared in the end!
     
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  3. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Except for the failed tests LMFAo. Do you agree Canelo was legit then. Must be no evidence for him either! /S
     
  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Except there aren't any failed tests. As for Canelo, we'll have to wait and see. I'm not sure if Canelo Avlarez did fail a test because I don't care about Canelo and even if he did fail, I wouldn't care because I don't care if boxers use peds.
     
  5. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    There were failed tests, two of em, actually.

    Stop denying truths, buddy!
     
  6. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nope, there weren't any. That's the truth buddy.
     
  7. MVC!

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    Russian heavyweight contender Alexander Povetkin used the substance meldonium after it was banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency on Jan. 1, 2016, a jury ruled Monday in U.S. federal court in New York.

    The jury took just 32 minutes to reach a verdict finding that Povetkin used the performance-enhancing drug during the leadup to what was supposed to be a mandatory fight against heavyweight world titleholder Deontay Wilder last May 21 in Moscow.
     
  8. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nope, there's no evidence at all that Povetkin took Meldonium AFTER it was banned. The traces was within the allowable amount.
     
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  9. MVC!

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    "Allowable amount" LMFAO

    Nothing was allowable, it was a complete ban after the date and the fact that earlier in the month it wasn't caught and it was only caught at the END of the month speaks volumes!~
     
  10. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    There is absolutely NO test for ANY DRUG WITHOUT A tolerance for error.
    To create the regent to activate a reaction a miniscule amount of the chemical must be introduced establishing a baseline level.
    99% of the time, the tests do not detect the micro-trace. Hence the A/B sample collection as insurance and immediate retesting upon a positive soas to better gauge the usage if in fact both samples are positive.
    The half-life of a drug establishes the time table for which a cheat uses to cycle on/off around testing.
    Clen has a 36 hr half-life making it ridiculously difficult to be caught using since the levels are cut in half within a day or two of last usage.
    And because it is such a potent stimulant, usage of the drug during intestive cardio training sprints/sparring/circuit is extremely dangerous and requires strict discipline and oversight.

    The levels he was caught with initially were simply FAR too high for meat contamination and why the following tests were far lower and then negative above the regent tolerance.

    In Povetkin case, the meldonium tests were many times lower than the tolerance and thus more likely than not, a false positive unless of course his Bsample would have been over the positive illegal levels, WHICH THEY WERE NOT.

    As for the trace Ostarine test. I believe it was also below regent tolerance level but because it was Povetkin, all objectivity went out the door.

    And while it is up to each fighter to take responsibility for what food/supplements he takes, there have been several energy drinks in the US to have been discovered to contain traces of Ostarine. Also a cut drug like Clen, but far less effective and of almost NO VALUE TO A HW.

    Double...no, make it triple.... FACEPALM
     
  11. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Quite right MVC and as much as I’ve given Wilder stick in the past that Povetkin situation who I had Wilder to win anyway was a ridiculous situation to be in for Wilder and those that said Wilder could of fought Povetkin had he wanted to know nothing as he was always gonna be suspended regardless.
    Just read an article on the BBC about the cancelled Canelo fight and whilst it was peddling the psy op about tainted meat it actually pointed out how one his team was a butcher.
     
  12. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Certainly he’s been made to tow the line for years whilst they built his image,you know how folk like to blame his English?well I think his English is pretty good which is why I used to laugh at his answers when asked on stuff,”so what Are you gonna do in this fight mr Golovkin”......”I respect him and this is boxing,big drama show”.

    No way his English was that bad he probably is quite arrogant and this was his way of saying to hell with K2 BS.
    At least now he’s actually saying what’s on his mind,not unlike how Dylan was with reporters and their questions you’re kinda damned either way.
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You have a very low tolerance for people's incessant bull****, and you like to be short and sweet and to get to the point, also you tend to be on the cynical side.:D
     
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  14. here2stay

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    Yes Seriously.
     
  15. here2stay

    here2stay Barxing banned Full Member

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    Your hope for an L on GGG’s record used a lot more than just Clen and Your hero used iv’s ;) Your trolling and dumb **** won’t change that.
     
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