GGG has to Move up In Weight if Wants to Be great

lil g is happy beating the geales and monroes of the world.

will only move up to fight ancient fighters (froch, hopkins ), total bums ( chavez jr)
will only move down to fight 40 years old floyd

wont fight lara, duck ward and 155 canelo

 

Abel said that about 3 years ago, but again, he only weighed 165 pounds 30 days out from the Lemeiux fight. And that was an official weigh-in, so that was legit.

He shouldn't have to concede even a pound to fight Canelo.

 

What are you talking about?

It isn't an argument, it was just an OBSERVATION.

No, we don't have to look specifically at a fighters attributes such as: stamina, speed and reflexes etc.

I was simply making an observation and disagreeing with your comments regarding Floyd.

You think that because Floyd was outweighed in a fair few fights, that GG should move up to LHW, because it'd be the same.

That's what you've said.

What I'm saying to you is quite clear:

Even though Floyd was outweighed in a number of his fights, he was still as big as most of his opponents, if not bigger. His reach of 72" was a huge advantage for him, especially at the lower weight classes.

Do you understand?

He was outweighed against Canelo, but they were practically the same size, with Floyd having a reach advantage.

Yet if Golovkin moved up to LHW, not only would he be outweighed, almost all of his opponents would also be taller than him, with advantages in reach. Which means that Golovkin would have NO PHYSICAL advantages whatsoever.

So Golovkin would be completely outsized and outweighed. If he was to fight Adonis Stevenson, he'd have a 7" reach disadvantage. Reach is unbelievably important to a fighter.

When did Floyd ever have a 7" reach disadvantage against anyone? It never happened, yet he had a 7" reach advantage himself over Ricky Hatton.

I don't know why you and others are having difficulty with what I'm saying. It's very simple.

Again, if Golovkin moved up to fight at LHW, he'd be completely outsized and outweighed in almost every fight, which only ever happened once with Floyd, which was in his fight against Oscar.

That's the only point I'm making.

Floyd being outweighed against Canelo and Maidana etc, is not the same as asking Golovkin to fight at LHW.

I can't be any clearer than that.

 

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He wants to unify the titles at MW.

Hopefully that will happen. If he does, it'll be interesting to see what he does afterwards.

It's a joke that you're calling him a joke.

It's not as though MW is devoid of any good fights and SMW is stacked.

If that was the case, I'd agree with you. But it isn't.

 

GGG will never be great
He wants to unify the division because he knows its terrible
If he moved up Chudinov would outbox him
Even 55 year old Hopkins would beat him at 168

 

Do you not think it's reasonable to suggest it's easier for someone with proportionately long reach to go up beyond their natural weight?
I do. Especially for a defensive fighter.

 

GGG can leave moving up divisions to the thousands of journeymen chasing a payday, the last time boxing had an Undisputed Champion was a decade ago :smoke

 

boxsensei,


This is hopeless.

You are getting defensive and argumentative, when all I've done is made an observation, and disagreed with your comments regarding Floyd.

Again, WTF are you talking about?

What logic has been broken beyond repair?

What do you mean the only criteria that matters in boxing is weight?

What??

If you think Golovkin should go to LHW, that's fine.

All I'm saying to you, is that if he did move up to LHW, he'd be completely outsized and outweighed, in a way that Floyd was, in only ONE of his fights.

Do you understand what I'm saying?

You said that Golovkin should move up to LHW, because Floyd was regularly outsized. Again, yes he was, but not in the way that Golovkin would be if he moved up.

I'm sure a small child would understand the point I'm making to you.

Floyd fighting Canelo and Maidana etc, would not be the same as Golovkin fighting Kovalev and Stevenson etc. That's the only point I wanted to make to you.

Okay?

You are demanding that Golovkin does something that Floyd only did on ONE occasion in his career.

Golovkin fighting regularly at LHW, would be the equivilant of Floyd having fought regularly against the guys the size of Oscar. Now how hard is that to understand?

It's okay for you to say you don't care about how tall a fighter is, and how big his reach is, because you aren't the one fighting.

Once again, Floyd never fought anyone who had a huge reach advantage over him.

For you to say that Golovkin doesn't have the courage that Floyd had, is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!


Let's look at Floyd's courage:

Demanding O.S.D.T. and cut off days against Manny, when there wasn't a shred of evidence that Manny was dirty, and no other fighter had an issue facing him.

Avoiding a huge money rematch against Oscar.

Deliberately coming in over weight against JMM.

Forcing Canelo to fight at a CW, even though he'd said he didn't care what Canelo weighed on fight night.

The use of an emergency IV due to severe dehydration, despite boasts over the years, of how easily he always made weight.


Yeah, all of the above is the very definition of courage.

 

It's okay for you to say it's only 15 pounds.

Again, it isn't only a 15 pound weight disadvantage that he'd have to worry about.

Yes, lots of other fighters have moved up. And they all deserve a ton of credit for doing so. But that doesn't mean that a guy who isn't a huge MW should be forced up to LHW, or criticised if he doesn't go.

I've recently read an article where Kovalev seemed hesitant in moving up to CW. And this is a guy who many people on here speak of as though he's the Terminator.

 

He wants to unify the MW division because he's a MW.

How strange.