GGG has to Move up In Weight if Wants to Be great

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    We all know why Mayweather took the illegal & excessive saline drip. The NSAC know full well why he took it & vainly tried to cover for him with the " Mr Mayweather did nothing wrong " BS
    How can you give any credibility to a State Commission who do this.....
    1 On May 2 they deny Manny Pacquaio the Toradol injections for his torn rotator cuff injury that they had previously agreed he could have. They claimed they did this because he hadn't ticked a box on the form saying he was injured
    But then>>

    2... After it was publicized that Floyd Mayweather had been caught receiving an ILLEGAL & EXCESSIVE 750 ml saline drip on May 1 No application for a TUE was submitted by Mayweather for that saline The same State Commission then allowed Mayweather to submit an application for a TUE for the May1 saline drip NINETEEN DAYS AFTER !! HE RECEIVED IT. and believe it or not it was GRANTED!!! :patsch:patsch

    Now please tell me how can that be legal?? To me that is
    BLATANT CORRUPTION!!!!
     
  2. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "In a USADA memo obtained by USA TODAY Sports, the agency explains how it oversaw the administering of the IV to Mayweather, as well as other information in the SB Nation story it deems inaccurate.
    A USADA Doping Control Officer (DCO) came to Mayweather’s home on May 1 to collect a urine sample, however Mayweather was dehydrated and unable to produce one. A paramedic was summoned to Mayweather’s home and provided the IV, with the DCO in Mayweather’s presence until the boxer was able to provide a urine sample.
    Mayweather applied for a the****utic-use exemption and it was granted after the fight. Such an exemption is not required by NSAC since pre-fight IVs are not banned. In fact, it is a common practice among athletes licensed to fight in Nevada.
    On the day of the Mayweather-Berto fight, NSAC executive director Bob Bennett said: “Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever.”:hi:


    http://boxingjunkie.usatoday.com/20...s-in-sb-nation-story-on-floyd-mayweathers-iv/
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dear God. :patsch

    I was talking about COMPLETE PHYSICAL DISADVANTAGES only, Einstein.

    I made an observation regarding complete physical disadvantages.

    Complete physical disadvantages that Floyd only faced ONCE.

    Only you have mentioned speed and other attributes.

    Attributes and physical disadvantages are too separate things entirely.


    Aren't I getting a reply regarding the IV?

    I wonder why that is?

    In your own words, he weighed in under the limit against Maidana, and then only rehydrated by 1-2 pounds afterwards.

    A fighter who makes weight easily and who only rehydrates by only 1-2 pounds in a 30 hour window, does not need an emergency IV of 750ml of saline and vitamins because he's severely dehydrated.

    It's illogical.

    Yet he's courageous, huh?

    :lol:
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    The whole thing stinks.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    We've seen the official statements, most of which were ripped by Thomas Hauser.

    You tell us how a guy who only rehydrates by 1-2 pounds in a 30 hour period, found himself so dehydrated that he needed an emergency IV of 750ml of fluids.

    Explain it to us in your own words.
     
  6. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Official statements from the NSAC director have way more credibility than the words of a loser journalist like Thomas Hauser.
     
  7. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You dont get to pick and chose what attributes you want to discuss. I started off by talking about weight which is the only criteria that boxing uses to male fair fights. Then you started talking about height and reach. Accordingly I started talking about power. You can't have it both ways, we can focus on weight alone which is why boxing has weight classes, nothing more or we can talk about everything, height, reach, power, speed, stamina, IQ, chin etc.... either way, I own your dumbass. GGG is a coward.

    And here's my IV reply.
    "A USADA Doping Control Officer (DCO) came to Mayweather’s home on May 1 to collect a urine sample, however Mayweather was dehydrated and unable to produce one. A paramedic was summoned to Mayweather’s home and provided the IV, with the DCO in Mayweather’s presence until the boxer was able to provide a urine sample.
    Mayweather applied for a the****utic-use exemption and it was granted after the fight. Such an exemption is not required by NSAC since pre-fight IVs are not banned. In fact, it is a common practice among athletes licensed to fight in Nevada.
    On the day of the Mayweather-Berto fight, NSAC executive director Bob Bennett said: “Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever.”:deal:hi::good
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thomas Hauser is a highly respected boxing writer.
     
  9. Loudon

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    All I spoke of was physical disadvantages of height, reach and weight. That was all.

    GG isn't a coward.

    I don't give a sh*t about your copy and pasted official statement, I'm asking you to explain to me in your own words how Floyd was so dehydrated he needed an emergency IV of 750ml of saline and vitamins?

    Is the question too difficult for you? Or do you just not want to answer it?
     
  10. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Areyou to stupid to see that all, I was talking about was weight, and then you threw in height and reach, so I made you look stupid by throwing in power and other attributes.

    And I not a physician and I don't care why he took it. I dont care what fighters take or do as long at isn't illegal. Since was Floyd did was legal, its irrelevant and therefore I don't have an opinion.
     
  11. Loudon

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    You made me look stupid?

    Really?

    By saying GG is a coward who should move up to LHW, on the grounds that Floyd fought Canelo and Maidana?

    Okay.

    :lol:


    Regarding the courageous Floyd, you don't need to be a physician.

    You only need to apply logic and common sense.

    The fact that you won't elaborate, speaks volumes.

    Again, a guy who easily makes weight and only rehydrates by 1-2 pounds in a 30 hour window, would never find himself so dehydrated that he was forced to obtain an emergency IV of 750ml of fluids.

    It's completely illogical.
     
  12. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At this point now that it has become abundantly clear that you're a fool and an idiot. I'm going to discontinue my back and forth with you, though its temptting to keep going because I always want to get the last word in. Nonetheless I'm going to take heed to the following adviice

    1. Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. —Greg King
    2. Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain
    With that said Invite others to examine all of my posts in this thread and the silly, stupid, nonsense that you spouted and form their own opinions. Have a blessed day:good
     
  13. Loudon

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    Very witty. But the fact remains, you can't give me a logical explanation as to why the COURAGEOUS Floyd needed an IV.

    :hi: