GGG has to Move up In Weight if Wants to Be great

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  1. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like I said back on the first page, I don't rate Hagler as high as many others. His best wins were over blown up welters and lightweights.
     
  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem with this is that instead of starting at 154 like GGG could easily have done he went ahead and jumped straight into 160. It was a mistake that probably cost him a lot more than most people would think.
     
  3. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He weighed 159 lbs for his fight night weight against the Big Show.
     
  4. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just gave you 3 fight night weights from 2011, 2013, and 2014 and you give me a alleged weight from a fake wrestling match from 2008:patsch:patsch

    And that wasn't a fight night weight and he was wearing tennis shoes, jeans and a shirt.

    Like I said between 148-150 is what he ways when boxing which is what we are discussing. Just accept that Floyd has faced guys weighing 15-20lbs more than him, but GGG is too scared to do the same.:hi:
     
  5. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Kovalev 6ft, 72.5
    Pascal 5ft11, 72
    Ward 6ft, 71
    Stevenson 5ft11, 77
    Beterbiev 5ft11.5 73

    Ffs these guys aren't giants, four of them have less reach than Andrade, charlo bros and Erickson Lubin and all are shorter or approx the same height.

    These are light middlweights!!!

    GGG fans be honest he is not too small for these guys. Maybe not talented enough but not too small
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    One, you are a moron for thinking that height and reach don't matter. Two, yes Paul Williams should have fought at super middleweight or light heavyweight where he wouldn't have had unfair advantages. Three, Wladimir Klitschko had two inches more reach than Paul Williams. Look it up numbnuts. Four, weight classes are designed to even the playing field and in general are more fair than measuring by height and reach. Weight classes exist because they were the best way to ensure a fair fight when boxers were making up the rules hundreds of years ago. Sometimes, as in the case of Paul Williams, Tommy Hearns, Sandy Saddler, Alexis Arguello, Bob Foster, Michael Spinks, Bernard Hopkins, Guillermo Jones, a fighter will have massive unfair advantages over people the same weight as him. Weight classes weren't designed with these outlier body types in mind. What your tiny brain doesn't seem to comprehend is that fighters may exploit the weaknesses and loopholes of the system to gain an unfair edge, that a rule may not be a good rule in all cases. **** you. Go **** yourself, you stupid *****.
     
  7. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cussing and name calling don't change the fact that I owned your dumb ass. Boxing is separated by weight divisions period. You don't get to create your own special categories, based on height, reach,and any other idiotic stuff you can think of. The fact is that there are fighters at 168 and 175 who would come in at a reasonable enough fight night weight for GGG to face them but he's scared. That's all that matters. That's why he won't be anything more than HBO after dark fighter who will be forgotten in 10years.

    Your dumb ass is crying about them having a height and or reach advantage which makes you look like a complete idiot. Then you made yourself look even stupider when the you could come up with it after I demonstrated Floyd's fight night weight disadvantges, was a scripted weigh in from the WWE in which Floyd was fully clothed.:rofl:lol: You're making yourself look dumber each time respond. Give up. Log off. You're finished. GGG is a one weight class coward.
     
  8. Boxing2016

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    Let say GGG move up greatly in the weight than what will happen? Is it going to be same scenario that no one of so called great boxers had guts to face him like in his present career.
     
  9. gmurphy

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    Mayweather has the same reach as beterbeiv, that fight needs to happen
     
  10. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ovid***ile,

    I think Kovalev would have a lot of success at CW, and I was quite surprised by the article I read where he seemed hesitant.

    I don't think GG would have too many issues fighting at SMW.

    Great points.

    :good
     
  12. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It's too late for Little g to be a great. He has, like Calzaghe, wasted his early career fighting the lowest level of opponent available. Now he's 34 years old and still hasn't fought a quality opponent.

    When the WWs have dipped deep into Golovkin's pockets, used up the WBC title for as much money as they can, the belt will probably fall into GiGi's lap and he will become undisputed without having to fight real A-class MW for it.

    There are many parallels to GiGi and Donald Trump. Both are pampered media hypes who under perform yet have a following of saliva drooling backwoods idiots who believe they are great.
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    boxsensei,

    I said Golovkin walks around at 167 pounds and Kovalev walks around at 190 pounds.

    Yes, Floyd was outweighed in his fights. But Floyd being outweighed, isn't the same as asking Golovkin to move up to LHW.

    Paul Williams wasn't your average WW/LMW was he?

    His reach wasn't longer than the Klitschko's.

    How on earth can height and reach be irrelevant?

    What do you mean by my logic? What was Paul Williams' walk around weight?

    You are saying that Golovkin should move up to LHW, on the grounds that Floyd was regularly outsized.

    Yet he wasn't.

    You believe those weights? Because something is amiss.

    Does he actually step on the scales, or does a member of his team disclose what he weighs?

    He weighed in at 150.5 for Canelo. So he actually lost weight after the weigh-in?

    He only put a few pounds on after the weigh-in against Maidana?


    Yet he was so dehydrated for Manny, he needed an emergency IV?

    You can't have it both ways. Something's not right.
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :rofl

    :good

    That right there is proof that GG should have no excuses in not fighting Kovalev etc.
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're a fool.

    He fought Canelo who's roughly the same height, and who he had a reach advantage over. But because he was outweighed, you think that means that GG should move up and fight the best LHW's in the world?

    Really?

    Fighting Canelo at a CW, even though he himself was a JMW champ, is the same as asking GG to move up 2 weight divisions?

    :nut