GGG, one of my faves but you are free to call him a Duck Artist

I don't fault Ward for milking a few easy $2mil fights. I'm sure most people would. He is really lucky that Roc picked him up. Enjoy it!

 

KOvalev gets 2 easy fights. Montrel was all Pascal crowd.Now I bet their looking for some bum to fight in Russia but if I were Kovalev I would stay in the states.:yep Have not heard anything. Kovalev doesn't have a whole lot of options either. Fight mandatories? From the interviews I seen Kovalev doesn't seem in a rush to fight Ward. He said on TV take your time! Maybe he sees something we don't?:hey

 

Thanks for the essay buffy. And thanks for telling everyone on this forum the necessity of reading your posts. Nothing remotely narcissistic about that statement at all.

I've never really liked you as a poster because you'll go to great lengths to defend your favorite fighters i.e. Pacquiao, like you're employed by these people. What I find even more offensive is that you think you have some kind of esoteric information that isn't privy to the rest of the posters on here.

I have a newsflash for you- you didn't say anything that anyone didn't already know. But once again, like the majority of your posts, you make sure to tip the scales and say things to only glorify your favorite fighters.

But with true boxing fans, especially those of us who have actually been watching the sport for more than a few years such as yourself, we tend to put more stock on who fighters actually fight rather than what their purses look like against mid tier guys.

You can spin things however you want, this is a public forum and you're entitled to your opinion and all, but you're not going to shift anyone's opinion on this matter because it's a rather polarizing topic in general.

When someone calls themselves the most avoided fighter in the sport and are willing to take on anyone from 154-168 lbs, it resonates with fans and they want to see if said fighter will actually do as he says.

You can make yourself believe whatever you want about how amazing unifying a division with mid-tier fighters would be for your idol's legacy, but any true fan of the sport knows him beating Andre Ward at 168 lbs is exponentially superior to him unifying the MW division. The 160 lb division isn't stacked with elite fighters, and he has/had the opportunity to really prove his worth by taking on one of the very best fighters pound for pound who just so happened to campaign 8 lbs north of where Gennady has been dominating.

I actually am a fan of Gennady, but I'm not going to allow my personal bias for the guy skew the fact that he (his handlers) say one thing about him yet he continues to go the path of least resistance.

Don't worry, you don't need to respond back and tell me to read your long-winded essay. I already read it and wasn't impressed in the least. Just like the majority of your posts in general. I guess with Pacman's retirement we'll see you on full TMZ mode with Gennady now. Congrats little guy.

 

Are you saying Bumlovkin "swerved" Ward?

Lol...

 

Lol! I still find it hilarious that you take everything I say so personally. It's a boxing forum mate, it ain't that serious. Isn't it kind of interesting how the fighters I defend the most tend to be the most hated on the forum? Can't possibly have any correlation to that...:huh

Huh? Nope, the information I gave is pretty much known by majority of boxing scribes. Reason why most media who've been closely reporting boxing on GGG for years know and have said that GGG has never ducked, swerved, or have made contradictory stances. Anyone can find this information. It isn't special. People just have to actually look and not listen to all the gossip.

If everyone knew that information, then there won't be another "GGG ducked Ward" thread on this site ever again. I do a lot of defending on here, only to counter-balance the ridiculous and nonsensical hate that these fighters get. And that hate mostly falls towards Pacquiao, GGG, Canelo, and Mayweather.

I have a news flash for you-- fans of the sport don't decide for GGG what is best for his career. If GGG thinks unifying and breaking Bernard's record at 160 is more important than a fight with Ward... guess what? Then it's more important! Because it's him deciding what's best for his career- not you, not me, not any fan. You don't have to agree with that view, but... it's not your life so they don't care.

Who has he ducked at 160?

No, from your post, it seems you didn't read it. Which is why I attached it multiple times

Again, I'm done re-discussing it. For now on, I'll just use that post which I have. I'm not concerned with Gennady as a fighter as much as I'm concerned with the truth, that is, people continuing to spew untrue statements about the situation. No need to respond back telling me how narcissistic, conceited, and agenda-stricken I am!

 

He said "take your time" after one of his fights and it went unchanged, but he didn't mean take your time. He got mixed up with his words, he wants ward now, because it's a great big $$$ fight. Kovalev has admitted he doesn't know what happens because wards legit.

Kovalev doesn't worry about losing, he'll fight anyone. Kovalev even said I'm not leaving the division, even if ggg moves to 175. Kovalev said he'd fight ggg, if he has to.

But to kovalev, ggg is the last fighter he would want to face. Lhw is stacked right now. It's like the last decades ww division stacked

 

It's stacked in talent but right now for Kovalev, there's no options. Stevenson, Fonfara, Beterbiev are unavailable, so that's three top opponents out, there's lots of upcoming guys but it's too early for them to fight the likes of Kovalev, it's gonna be a year or two more before they're ready.

 

Ward, from what's been said, is contracted to fight Kovalev in the fall. I wonder how that'll go about considering Ward wants another tuneup and HBO counted his bout against Barrera as his last tuneup. But if he does get Ward, then I think that'll be best option for him besides maybe Adonis Stevenson.

 

Big GGG fan, but I do think he's lost some of his momentum as of late. I'm not sure if it was the announcement of Wade when everyone was wanting/expecting Canelo but it seems a bit of wind has gone out of his sails. Months ago he was getting picked up by Apple to do their commercial, now everything seems a lot quieter, and especially considering it's fight week.

He gets himself out there, goes to Nascar, Dodger games etc but without fighting that huge name, I think he may have received the ceiling of popularity.

 

"But to kovalev, ggg is the last fighter he would want to face"

so kovalev doesn't want to face ggg??? even though kovalev is gonna face a guy that ggg ducked? makes no sense

 

I didn't read any of your drivel, I just noticed you responded back to me which I requested you don't.

What exactly are you trying to prove? You're the same weirdo that opened up a thread talking about how you were walking around Las Vegas and taking public polls about who is more popular- Mayweather or Pacquiao- and stated you were going to different stores to see who had more apparel for sale between each fighter.

You're a very strange poster. I don't respect your lack of knowledge on the sport or the TMZ drivel you keep trying to shove down people's throats.

You want to know the truth? There's a lot of things that happen under the radar in negotiations that boxing fans don't know about.

You made it seem so certain just a few months ago that Canelo would be forced to fight Gennady. But you obviously don't know how politics in this sport goes, especially when dealing with guys that draw large revenue for different belt organizations (i.e. WBC with Alvarez.)

Respond back, don't respond, I really don't care. But everytime I see you post your rudimentary ****ysis on things and spin it off like you know everything that's happening as far as this guy ducking this guy with your silly strawman arguments, I'll be here to check you on them.

 

I wouldn't take a different stance, I agree with your opinion, I just don't know what you're telling me. Kovalev isn't remotely close to the name/draw that his talents should warrant and his promotional co isn't doing anything to change that fact atm..

He's gonna have to select, I guess one of the B level fighter's to stay busy. He has to continue to fight and not just wait for ward. I'm much more interested in the kovalev v ward fight than I used to be.

It's clear ward used that 2+ years off in a very beneficial way. Dudes much bigger than he was, fights I am much more (maybe it's just pleasing to my eyes) dominating way. Idk, the ward who fought Barrera and Smith, (don't care if neither proved anything) is a much better fighter than the ward I've ever seen.

It's highly probable ward was killing himself to make 168, I was confused when ward turned down (yes, ward said NO) GGG's offer, but now I'm believing ward couldn't make 168 comfortably nvd 164.

He just looks so much stronger and let's his hands go in such a greater and more destructive way. I had kovalev destroying ward until I studied the Smith and Barrera fights. Ward was Awesome in every single round, that was 24 of his best rounds, that I can remember.

No its not the opponents, Barrera was the most dangerous fighter ward fought, up to date. Froch wasn't ever a threat to ward, way too huge a gap in talent. Barrera was totally outclassed and he's actually a very good lhw.

Kovalev v ward is now a pickem for me, drastic change from my previous opinion. ****, no idea what the **** I'm even going on about

 

I didn't bother reading yours either. You clearly don't have any intent in having a mature discussion but are just on some personal diatribe. Feel free to block me, I'll be doing the same to you. Good day, sir!

 

After this fight was mooted, Andre Ward had ZERO fights for over 12 months. When he did, it was at a cw against Paul Smith ("Froch wasn't available so Smith was the next best option")

And you people believe he was ready to get in with Golovkin then and there. This is beyond stupid.

 

Nobody in his division will fight him. Anyone else, under any circumstances, would get props for trying to fight a champ in the division above, at the weight limit.

Ward fights voluntaries against bums, well done lad easy money. Golovkin fights bum mandatories, as contingency when his first choices openly duck, he's a coward.

If he asked for a 164 cw vs Ramirez would you clowns give him ****? Of course.

Is he the first fighter ever to get **** for NOT asking for a catchweight?