GGG reminds me of Edwin Valero

The Akbar One · Mar 6, 2015

Leonit said: ↑

In his last fight Valero was moving in and out on DeMarco and boxed beautifully unleashing hell on him. I didn't see anything in that fight that suggested he was over-hyped. We will never now it is big 'if'. Mikey Garcia sparred Maidana as a WW and Rios and some other killers and said that Valero hit the hardest and his power was insane.
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DeMarco fought Broner as well, at a time when DeMarco was a little better, and not as young or green. Valero didn't do worse to him than what Broner did.

The Akbar One · Mar 6, 2015

JAB5239 said: ↑

The ATG talk about GGG is ridiculous. But he has beaten a better level of opponents more consistently than Valero ever did. Valero was hyped with barely a top opponent along the lines of Ibeabuchi. Who is to say what he might have done. But the fact remains he didnt do it to the same level as Golovkin.
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I would agree that yeah, Golovkin's resume is better than Valero's.

The Ibeabuchi ****ogy doesn't even make sense. Valero had 30 fights. Ibeabuchi fought better opposition in Tua, and Byrd, in 20 fights, still an up and coming guy. As a matter of fact, Golovkin hasn't fought the equivalent of that version of Tua, or Byrd, yet.

Leonit · Mar 7, 2015

The Akbar One said: ↑

DeMarco fought Broner as well, at a time when DeMarco was a little better, and not as young or green. Valero didn't do worse to him than what Broner did.
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Broner was huge on that weight though. Had he stayed there he would've remained unbeaten for years.

the commentator · Mar 7, 2015

Except for the fact that he's not gonna murder his wife and commit suicide...

madpuppy · Mar 7, 2015

Boxmaster said: ↑

I think a Valero comes along very rarely. Usually if someone is a sociopath they end up involved in prison, in gangs, and they never get deep in boxing.

Valero was a sociopathic thug who could box. His entire life was boxing because he didn't have anything else going for him. He wasn't going to become a politician. He wasn't going to get a day job. He was either going to be on the street robbing and killing people for a living or beating people up in the ring.

And you saw that in his mentality in the ring. He seemed to enjoy beating people up and come at you harder if you fight back at him. Some fighters like Pacquiao also had that quality but the difference is Valero also had both precision and power that Pacquiao couldn't bring up as he went up in weight. He also had a chin.

GGG seems overhyped. He is a good boxer, a good puncher, but he isn't really any better than Abraham was in my opinion. Ward would humiliate him. Froch would humiliate him. Let GGG fight Abraham or someone who actually has a decent resume like Cotto.
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Valero was a psychopath, not a sociopath, look the two terms up

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