GGG said Ward Kovalev stoppage was legit.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Lawrence Martin, Jul 14, 2017.


  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    He won by SD against the CW loser and Kov was knocked out and you claimed low blows from Ward you ****en loser. And in your drunken rage you come here and post hot garbage, and then wake up with a hangover and post more garbage. Sorry *******.
     
  2. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Then do something about it.
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ONE bad call OK Tony Weeks made a lot in that fight
    Have you ever seen the Duran-Buchanon fight. Duran used every dirty trick in the book ref Johnny Lo Bianco "missed" them all he even argued the after the bell blatant low blow was legal after watching a replay of it
     
  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    these judges were biased blatantly biased
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Tell us HOW to do something about the corruption Alex The damn State Commissions are orchestrating the majority of it
     
  6. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Since when do I have the authority to do anything about it? It would be the duty of boxing commissions to ban corrupt referees, judges. Yet NSAC saw the blatant breaking of the rules with the fake TUE that was given to Mayweather by USADA when USADA had no right to issue that and they did nothing against it. Plus their president, Bob Bennett defended Tony Weeks saying the low blows from Ward weren't actually low and he had the nerve to blame Kovalev for headlocks. Boxing is corrupt to the core yet you say I should do something about it, when everybody whose job is to fight corruption does nothing, that is funny.
     
  7. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Anything else is better than the circle jerk you're looking for online. I Don't disagree with you, the stoppage was bad. We're on the same page. But how do you determine the difference between human error and corruption? How do you know that the commission just doesn't want to admit wrong and decide "eh, it was close" instead of dealing with public perception and investing time and money into an investigation to split hairs?

    Did maidana make a bigger offer to Weeks than Floyd or the NSAC?

    Do something, form a posse, make some noise. There's plenty of people that agree with you. Get some picket signs, write a letter, idgaf honestly.

    Do I accept it? No. But I don't care enough to step up to it. It's frustrating at times but doesn't upset me. It's not worth my stress, nor is crying online like half of us boxing nerds. Find a new sport or deal with it.

    I think Weeks made a mistake, maybe Ward buddy-buddy'd him to subconsciously get him on his side, who knows. Either way, Weeks made a mistake. And I think the commission just doesn't care enough to dig deeper.
     
  8. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    When you hear something like what Laurence Cole did when he told Marquez that the Mexican was ahead on scorecards, you don't assume that he did it because he is corrupt? Because there is no way that Cole didn't know that was blatantly against the rules. And let's talk about Russell Mora as well. He failed to call dozens of low blows in the Mares - Agbeko fight, warning Mares six times, and calling an absurd knockdown in the 11th round on a blatant low blow. You may say that Mora is inept, he doesn't know what a low blow is, or he just doesn't call dirty moves. Yet Mora disqualifed Anthony Peterson for low blows against Brandon Rios before, took away 2 points from Michael Katsidis for low blows without warning against Guerrero (later he also deducted a point from Guerrero for a low blow, but it was more like a make up call). Plus, Mora missed what should have been a knockdown of Guerrero in round two. So Russell Mora knows what a low blow is. He's seen them, warned them, penalized them. He's disqualified fighters for too many of them. And then Agbeko - Mares happened. You tell me if Mora is corrupt or not. And I could mention other terrible referees like Arthur Mercante Jr, Joe Cortez, Luis Pabon, Ian John Lewis, Dave Parriss etc. Like I said they are pretty consistent with their mistakes which help hometown fighters or A-Side ones most of the time. And what is sad about Tony Weeks that he was considered one of best referees in boxing before, but he proved that he is no better than the rest. Yet he will get big fights, while unbiased referees like Steve Smoger won't.
     
  9. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I don't disagree with you. You have a point. All I'm saying is: where do you draw the line between human error and corruption? There's a little gray area that, I'm sure, corrupt officials like to operate. Or maybe refs get black balled if they don't favor the house fighter so it's kind of an unwritten/unspoken rule. Who knows?

    Maybe fighters like to be buddies with officials so they'll favor them, the same way someone who's cool with a cop gets out of a speeding ticket.

    While I'm not denying corruption exists, because it does, you can't always assume someone is receiving money under the table. Don't forget though, it's usually the in-house fighters' promoter that's supplying the check (directly or indirectly). Human nature not to "bite the hand."

    I'm not defending Weeks btw, that was a shitty stoppage.