GGG says power is God Given: NOT FROM WEIGHTS

So power comes from an imaginary friend?

 

Power is almost always natural born.

 

Muscles, big guys it means **** ALL.. I know a local lad who isnt a boxer, martial arts, judo whatever... He has cleared crowds out i see this lad who probably weighs no more than 13 stone go through about six blokes 5 off them got dropped and the other was out on his feet. Its a gift hes a double hard ******* and the speed of his shots are like a blur.. He dont even train really..
Moral of the story you either have it or you dont genetics..

 

I an oft ignored aspect of the "you're either a hard puncher or you're not" debate is how many guys have power in all the different types of punches? eg Hearns had awesome straight punches but what abut his uppercuts? How many guys have power in their best punch but average in the rest?

 

Nothing has been given to the triple god. He has given it to himself. :bart

 

atsch

Do you think you punch with your arms?

 

:roflatsch

A boxer said it, he must be an expert on genetics, neuroscience, motor control, skill acquisition, biomechanics and exercise physiology. Sorry scientists everything you've worked your whole life on has been proved inconsequential and inaccurate, all GGG had to say was the word and now there's no need for anymore research. GGG also implied god exists, everybody needs to bow down right now.

 

Nope. It's a combination of body turn, hips, shoulder and arms. A kinetic chain, building from the ground up, that's the key to real power. My point about the weights was, if you've got more mass on your body, particularly shoulders and arms, then you're increasing the mass that's connecting with your opponent, which should in theory increase your power.

Of course, if you add so much mass that it slows your punches down then the benefits are cancelled out.

Force(Power) = Mass x Acceleration.

 

Nothing is 'turning' and your arms and shoulders weigh relatively so little that any change in mass there is negligible and wouldn't make an iota of difference to anything. The only thing that is ever connecting with your opponent is your fist and it's how much energy you can summate and conserve throughout that kinetic chain, the input from the arms themselves are negligible since they're the last link of the chain... they're for transferring force, not generating force.
Here's a post I made in another thread:

"It's velocity x mass that equals power but a boxer isn't running into an opponent so that simplistic equation makes zero sense when forces are summated at different joints and the effective mass of a punch has nothing to do with the mass of the person. Each muscle produces it's own force and all the different tendons of the body play a role in multiplying and summating that force, the force can be increased or decreased at every link of the kinetic chain.
That's why I get sick of people using that ******ed equation as if it means something, Oh you weigh 70kg and your fist is moving at 20m/s at impact so power is this. No it ****ing isn't, what about pennation of muscles, relative length of muscles, insertion points of muscles, stiffness/compliancy of tendons, fibre types and proportions, SSC activity, level of neural activation/inhibition etc. etc.? All those things play a part, a punch isn't a linear equation. The power equation explains nothing, it's just a result and the more important equation in that sense is impulse/momentum. A punch is a complicated, multijoint movement with a lot of things playing a part in the end product. Anybody who says that it's a simple equation or that a particular body part creates power is an idiot who doesn't know what they're talking about."

 

Force is not power.

 

The force of a punch is what equates to definable 'power', obviously.

 

He is god gifted at his craft. He is all about hard work and dedication. He is not skilled, he is not talented, he is god gifted. Many have tried, many have failed. He don't fight to prove who the best is... oh wait, wrong fighter.

 

Umm no, power is force multiplied by velocity, with velocity being the factor that affects power the most. That's why muscle providing active force is only activated at around 30% of MVC during the most powerful movements, the tendon is responsible for recoiling and providing the power. Any muscle that is contracting quickly can't apply high force, that's why your calves are almost isometric during jumping. The don't shorten so the attached achilles can recoil efficiently, which actually does all the work. Biomechanically there's a lot going on in every movement, to look at someone aesthetically and trying to determine if they can punch or not is just plain stupid. Some people here probably think bodybuilders can punch hard, they have mainly hypertrophy of slow twitch, endurance muscles believe it or not. Appearance has nothing to do with performance.