GGG v Brook. Garbage fight, thanks to MW cowards.

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  1. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    This fight is garbage. It almost makes me lose my interest in the sport watching one of the best fighters of our time have his career wasted by cowards in the middleweight division, as well as other divisions.

    Let's see.

    Canelo dropped the title and ducked him in the most cowardly of ways.
    Saunders ducked him straight out.
    Cotto refused to fight him and ducked him straight out.
    Jacobs priced himself out of the match, then claimed he needed 1 1/2 years to prepare, and then calls him out when a fight is already in the process of being signed, then silent when it falls through.
    Quillen priced himself out and ducked him.
    Eubank completely priced himself out and ducked him.
    Lara talks but no action, no contact or attempt to begin negotiations.
    Froch avoided him and turned down the fight.
    Chavez Jr avoided him and turned down the fight.
    Ward gave him a bs contract and then fled the division.

    Did I miss anyone??

    This is appalling stuff really. It makes me almost care to watch any longer, even though I've loved the sport since I was 10 years old.
     
  2. Purple Panther

    Purple Panther Active Member Full Member

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    GGG haters will ignore all of this. They're not the most honest bunch.
     
  3. Purple Panther

    Purple Panther Active Member Full Member

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    I hate that GGG is put in this situation, but you know what? I hate it for all of the boxing fans, whether they like or dislike him. This is terrible for the sport when the best in divisions refuse to fight each-other. It makes me look towards the UFC fight scheduling/business model with great admiration and appreciation for placing the fight fan first.
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Golovkin is a fking coward that wanted absolutely nothing to do with big bad ward. He was willing to negotiate with someone like Kell Brook who is 2 weights below, but for Andre Ward, he turned down a contract within5 minutes, no negotiations. And before you cry HE HAD A FIGHT WITH LEMIEUX DOE. So? Lemieux is fking C level, he could have had the same exact deal Kovalev had, Kovalev fought Pascal with a deal against Ward or negotiated for something that suited his preference more. What Golovkin's team really meant when they said 154-175, is 147-160 at the full 160.
     
  5. TinFoilHat

    TinFoilHat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Brook has a larger jock strap than any of them. Those guys are cowards.
     
  6. oiky

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  7. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Need to leave Ward's name out of that list when talking about cowards. The guy is fighting Kovalev ffs.
     
  8. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Seriously. These guys are considered top ten fighters? I can't remember any other fighter, whether we like him or dislike him, that has been feared more than GGG.

    It's disgraceful and these guys are cowards in their sport. I normally would never think of calling a boxer a coward after being in several boxing gyms for years, but come on.
     
  9. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Do you really wanna get into this? We all know the details and that GGG never decided against fighting Ward, but instead told Ward that he wouldn't be held to a 50/50 contract and to take the 3 fights that Ward said he needed and then they'd fight with a contract set up at the time.

    Everybody knows that what GGG decided was completely reasonable and that ANY fighter in GGG's position would've done exactly the same.

    He never ducked Ward. Ward knew the contract was some whack bs and offered it and then fled the division. Come on man.
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont think GGG ducked Ward. You cant duck people in different divisions. But only one side wanted to make the fight made at a reasonable weight. GGG wanted nothing to do with Ward and negotiations. The 164 was not even an official offer and a fking joke. Ward offered a 50/50, and tune-ups for an eventual showdown. Him wanting the tune-ups is reasonable since he was inactive for so long. If GGG did not like anything Ward brought to the table(kovalev accepted in a heartbeat), there is a thign called negotiation, and trying to make thef ight happen. Littel g wanted absolutely no parts of anything with Ward. The sad thing is that he didnt even want any parts of a rusty ward who was inactive for a long time.

    I mean c'mon, one guy is fighting the p4p #2 in a weight above in Kovalev, the other is bringing up a WW 2 full weight classes LMFAO.
     
  11. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Ok, let's talk specifically about the last portion of your post first. Read my initial list of opponents who avoided, ducked, dropped belts, or priced themselves out of a fight with him.

    Canelo dropped the title and ducked him in the most cowardly of ways.
    Saunders ducked him straight out.
    Cotto refused to fight him and ducked him straight out.
    Jacobs priced himself out of the match, then claimed he needed 1 1/2 years to prepare, and then calls him out when a fight is already in the process of being signed, then silent when it falls through.
    Quillen priced himself out and ducked him.
    Eubank completely priced himself out and ducked him.
    Lara talks but no action, no contact or attempt to begin negotiations.
    Froch avoided him and turned down the fight.
    Chavez Jr avoided him and turned down the fight.
    Ward gave him a bs contract and then fled the division.
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hopkins made his name on Welterweights. He couldn't cut it against the best Middleweights.

    So he fought the Welterweights.
     
  13. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    duran was a lightweight. he was one of haglers top wins.
     
  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Perhaps, but Duran is also a top 10 p4p fighter ever. And Hagler's best win is Thomas Hearns.
     
  15. LordSouness

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    By the same token, Kell Brook is having to move up 13lbs to get a fight against a respected fighter. An equivalent jump for GGG would be fighting at 174lbs.

    Think it's now completely clear that GGG is the same risk/reward fighter we've seen forever, despite everyone saying otherwise. He wants to fight a LMW in Canelo, he wanted CEJ because it made money (when he's done nothing to earn it) and he's moved onto dragging a WW up to full MW. Purely for money.