GGG v Murray

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  1. impacted

    impacted Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Shame for Martin that the round robin featuring him, Macklin, Barker and Lee never got going, he'd have beaten all of them except Lee that'd be 50-50.

    Whatever's said about Martin, one thing that can never be denied is that he's one brave, hard man.
     
  2. Silent_Service

    Silent_Service Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Where has this martin Murray is Irish rubbish come from?

    He's as English as they come, I've never heard him say he's Irish!
     
  3. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For a supposedly knowledgeable member of these boards you really do talk some pish.

    Macklin never beat anybody of note, and lost every time he fought anybody remotely World Class, yet you rate him above Lee and Murray ?

    Macklin did enough to earn a draw and maybe nudge a win against an underperfoming Sturm, and thats it ! yet you've been bigging up Sturm to create a smokescreen ever since, pathetic :patsch

    Lee was losing every round until a reckless Korobov walked onto a peach of a punch.

    Murray gets a draw against Sturm in Germany which tells you everything you need to know about what the real result should have been, he then gets a raw deal against Martinez in front of 50.000 screaming Argentinians in Buenos Aires in a fight lots of people thought he won, but he's rated below Macklin and Lee in your rankings ? :rofl

    Now your saying because Lee and Macklin are more well known their better ?

    It's the GREEN effect and nothing more, stick a shamrock on a fighters trunks, and your halfway there.
     
  4. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair it shouldn't make any difference where a fighter comes from, but clever promotion will use any avenue to create revenue.

    Murray would best Lee and Macklin, but his lack of decent PR and his questionable past have created obstacles to his development.
     
  5. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    You're starting to make sense Two Shakes.

    My work here is done.
     
  6. The Devil

    The Devil Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think even the most ardent Murray fans realise he has two chances of beating Golovkin; slim and none - the same as every other MW in the World at present. Just because you thought Macklin would present Golovkin with any sort of challenge, doesn't mean Murray fans are the same just because they are Murray fans. Sometimes you've got to be realistic about your guys chances; why you think Sturm ducked the one they call Triple G like the plague?
     
  7. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Have you not read the comments on these 3 pages?
    Murrays (handful of remaining) fans clearly DO expect him to trouble GGG.
     
  8. hitandhope

    hitandhope Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm a Murray fan and only expect Martin to trouble GGG if the fight is switched to a St Helens chippy.
     
  9. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Unless Murray is hiding something, and can produce something radically new and different, it's unlikely he will trouble GGG.

    Murray is big and strong, and could shell up behind his big arms, fight a negative fight so as to survive a bit longer than Matt and Geale did. But that's about all.

    His usual stuff just isn't enough to trouble GGG.

    While there is no blueprint on how to beat GGG, we can say clearly letting him force you back is not the way. He wants you to retreat as he loves to advance. Doubtful murray can do that.
     
  10. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Golovkin will knock Murray out!!!
     
  11. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    i hope murray does well, i still think GGG's great footwork, clinical timing and immense power is going to win him the fight, but i respect murray for getting in there.
     
  12. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Will murray continue to be a force at domestic level after this fight? He is 32 and doesn't seem too enthusiastic about boxing. Never seems motivated for the "little" fights...only gets up for the big ones. That's no good. I could see him calling it a day after GGG.
     
  13. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Macklins back. Wish him all the best.
    What odds a battle of GGG leftovers later this year?
     
  14. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Murray is one hellava fighter and will give GGG the most competitive fight of his career and probably loses a close decision. However Murray does have enough to KO him...
     
  15. Silent_Service

    Silent_Service Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1 question ... To anyone....

    Of all the MW's out there holding titles, Murray went looking for golovkin, why is that? I'd say it earns less than a fight with Lee, a lot less in fact (it speaks volumes the fight is overseas to both fighters) meaning.... He's obviously been working on something. That in itself gives me a bit of confidence.

    Second, no one who knows there boxing can question Murrays work ethic & strong mentality, again a major advantage when going in with a man who wins fights without actually throwing a punch "tyson esque" is GGG at the min...

    But I'd guess that GGGs camp is paying more attention to Murrays apparent lack of fear... Another slight advantage!

    No, Oliver Harrison knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he went hunting for GGG, they've an un nerving confidence from somewhere.. Don't write him off

    ( and for what it's worth I rate martin as best uk mw but I'm hardly a hardcore Murray fan, just a fight fan in general)