GGG vs Bhop at 175

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Nov 26, 2018.


Who wins

  1. GGG KO

  2. GGG UD

  3. Bhop KO

  4. Bhop UD

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  1. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess detecting sarcasm isn't one of your best assets?
     
  2. Farooq

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    Lol how is Wlad a super heavyweight? I never heard anybody mention Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, Leroy Jones, Al Jones, Gerry Cooney, Roy Williams, Michael Grant, Lance Whitaker, Henry Akinwande who were all around 6'5 plus being called super heavyweight. Now that Wladimir Klistchko was champ and Anthony Joshua is champion being 6'5 makes you a super heavyweight?
     
  3. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well its because this is an absolutely stupid hypothetical that the op made just to read peoples opinions on how Bhop would destroy GGG because it makes his hate filled heart feel special.
     
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  4. RingKing75

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    Super heavy "weight" not Super heavy "height". Height doesn't make you a shw its in combination with how much you weigh. DW is 6`7 and really isn't a shw imho. He's just a really tall hw.
     
  5. Farooq

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    Right the point is Lennox Lewis is close to 6'5 and weighed 230 at his prime. Riddick Bowe was 6'4 1/2 in his prime. Michael Grant and Lance Whitaker were 6'8 250 plus and I never heard the team super heavyweight being used to casual fans like you started using that term once Wladmir Klitschko became champion. As I said there is no super heavyweight division because there is no need for it. You could be 6'6 300 pounds like Corey Sanders. You can be 6'4 300 pounds like Jarrell Miller. That doesn't make you a super heavyweight. It makes you fat. Also liked I just typed there has been countless 6'5 230 pound guys like Anthony Joshua since the early 70's and none of them were called super heavyweights either.
     
  6. RingKing75

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    Some people consider anything over 6`4 250lbs a shw. If pushed that'd be my criteria but I've never given it much thought as its just a term people throw around. Doesn't really mean sht.
     
  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    been watching a bunch of bhop dirty mother****er but he would smother the funk out of GGG
     
  8. Farooq

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    Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, Michael Grant, Lance Whitaker, Al Jones, Leroy Jones, ect were 6'5 230 to 6'8 250 plus and nobody ever considered them super heavyweights. Casual fans started using that term super heavyweight when Wladmir Klitschko became champion. Which is funny since back the 90s when he turned pro nobody considered Wlad a super heavyweight either.

    But you are right the term doesn't mean anything.
     
  9. 22JM

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    Prime Hopkins eat pressure fighters for breakfast, ask Tito and Pavlik
     
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  10. Aston Villa

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    Ones a welter, the other one couldn't stay sober in camp
     
  11. Brighton bomber

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    Agreed about the first part. Golovkin isn't a big middleweight you just have to look at his 30 day weigh ins he's usually between 169-164lbs based off the Canelo and Brook fights. He walks around between 170-175lbs and he'd look soft at that weight.

    Hopkins didn't drain down to make 160lbs he never ballooned up in weight after weigh ins and like Golovkin walked around at about 170lbs or even less. He turned pro at 175lbs but he wasn't in shape for that fight. According to him he gassed in round 3 and was living on cheesesteaks and cheese fries for that first fight.

    http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=6611404

    Hopkins had to hire Mackie Shilstone to help him bulk up to light heavy, this was the same guy who helped Holyfield and Spinks bulk up to heavyweight. Why would he need to hire a guy to help him bulk up? Fact is Hopkins was a natural middle during his reign all signs point to that, his first fight out of prison when he was overweight gets used to prove he was a natural light heavy when countless years of walking around below 170lbs, weighing in well under the middleweight limit and never hydrating back up more than a few lbs is conveniently ignored.

    Even after bulking up with Shilstone's help Hopkins walk around weight was 185lbs, just 10lbs above the light heavy limit and in his last fights he was walking in the ring at 179lbs and he now walks around at about 174lbs.
     
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  12. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still you can see those styles were Tailor made for Hopkins, And Tito didn't looked like a Welter against Joppy
     
  13. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis used to get called a super heavy at times, he was seen as a near giant back. In the late 90s tbf.

    Most likely due to him being the first elite SHW from the amateurs. Biggs never really made it, Balado died two years after winning his Olympic gold and Audley was, well Audley.

    Wlad and Lewis are probably the only two guys over 6'4'' who were super heavyweight gold medalists who have excelled in the pros until more recently. Povetkin took. An age to really burst into the scene and he's a smaller heavyweight in today's division, Camarelle never turned and then you've had Jishua/Yoka since.
     
  14. Aston Villa

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    He turned pro at 175. I find it hard that a man can get fight fit but can still lose a stone without it draining him. He must've been real out of shape, I don't believe the cheese steaks, that's just exaggerating or just plain stupid on his behalf
    Alarm bells ringing here, Holy bulked up using naughty stuff
     
  15. HerolGee

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    thats just a reflection of his physical state in his first fight coming out of civilian life. Most people are not in shape for a non serious bout. Also that evidence suggests he initially was weaker as a LHW, since its a loss, therefore he wasnt natural as a LHW. Surely you'd assume that the weight he maintained during 17 years of boxing would be the one you pick as his more natural weight, as opposed to the one he spent 20 minutes at?

    I was wondering why you didnt see the evidence as it stands, rather than reading the opposite of what it tells you.
     
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