GGG vs Canelo 2 Punch stats - should settle the debate once and for all. 40-0

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  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Golovkin also got obviously robbed in the Olympics.
     
  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    @6:44

    Canelo lands a perfect right hand and he calls it "nothing" . Gave Canelo zero score for it. Its as clear as day how biased this fool is. Propaganda for casuals , thats all.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    Probably because it wasn't moving into Golovkin's face and Golovkin had already slipped the line of the shot. It's in NO way a "perfect" right hand, but some people might count it as a scoring shot. *shrug*
     
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  4. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can't argue with credibility like that.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    There's an awful lot that escapes the eye of the casual which boxing oracles such as ourselves can see with our eyes closed. I've become so expert at it now I see real time in slow motion.
     
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  6. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a great pity that in 10-15 years everyone will forget about the robbery and everyone will forget how great a boxer Gennady was. He has thudding power and world class boxing skills. The way he throws his jab is beautiful honestly, it's probably the best single shot in boxing today.
     
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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    What about Canelo? He has world class boxing skill as well.
    This is why so many GGG fans can accept the result in the rematch or even acknowledge that the fights were close. Intentionally or not , you only see what GGG is doing and pay no attention to what Canelo is doing.

    Yeah , GGG has a great jab .. Canelo has great defense and counter punching ability. It gets no mention.

    GGGs defense is hunching over in a turtle shell while waiting for Canelo to finish his attack. Canelo's defense is boxing in his purest form- slipping , parrying , weaving. Making GGG miss is graded on the scorecards and GGG was made miss a LOT.
    500 of his punches were made miss by Canelo in the first fight. That matters to the judges.

    Punch vacation also matters to the judges and thats were Canelo excels over GGG again. A jab alone isn't enough to win rounds when there's nothing else coming behind it.

    Its telling of the fact GGG landed so little on Canelo when there's such an over reaction to the few times he hit him clean. Cotto's brother hurt Canelo worse than GGG ever did ffs.

    As the title states , you can't appreciate Canelo's skills , you only see Golovkins.


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  8. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I appreciate Canelo's skills, his upper body movement, speed and combinations are incredible and he is a world class boxer but GGG beat him twice and this is what this thread is mainly focusing on. I am still bitter as I am a huge fan of Golovkin and being robbed twice is an absolute disgrace, especially that "you have to take the belt from the champ" in 90% of title fights you can only win the belt if you beat the champ fairly convincingly, Canelo lost the first fight very convincingly and the 2nd one seemed closer because of Canelo being on the front foot but GGG outlanded him, controlled the pace of the fight, Canelo did not come close to even beating Golovkin let alone beating him convincingly to take the titles away from him.
    Hell, Jacobs fight was much closer than either of the Canelo fights, I had GGG edging the Jacobs fight 114-113 or 115-112 and 116-112 for both GGG - Canelo fights
     
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  9. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Course he won. It was obvious. Used Canelos head as a piñata in those last rounds too..

    Canelo is blessed with freakish whiskers tho, so GGG had to KO him. Didn't come, so the outcome was gunna be pretty obvious
     
  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The pace of the fight was set by Canelo who made Golovkin move backwards for the first time in his career. He went against the gameplan and he went against his trainers instructions as soon as he saw Canelo moving towards him gunning for the knockout.
    GGG didn't chose to retreat , he was forced to retreat.
    He'd have to be a pure fool to think the judges would give him a decision for boxing a more cautious safety orientated fight than the first . He knew what he needed to do , he just couldn't or wouldn't do it , therefore Canelo set the pace of the fight.
    Golovkin as the bigger and more powerful man had no reason to be giving up ground to Canelo. He claimed Canelo was moving too much the first time so he should have been happy Canelo was right there in front of him for the rematch. The speed at which Canelo was slipping and countering made him realize very quickly that it was too risky to stay in his connect zone and trade shots.
    He altered his pace and tactics to protect himself without caring about losing rounds. Golovkin's pace is not on the backfoot shelled up , so once again , it was Canelo who set the pace of the fight.

    You say Golovkin outlanded him? I say Canelo outlanded him.. Both statements are true. In Canelo's case he outlanded him on power shots which are the most telling and point scoring shots of a fight. For smaller man Canelo to walk forward and out land Golovkin on power shots is a testament to how much better a boxer he is. That fight was always a bigger challenge and risk for Canelo than it was for Golovkin.

    Who had you winning between Jacobs and Sergiy D? A lot of people had Chenko winning that fight when he was outlanded by Jacobs . He made it close (or won) on the power punch count. Unlike Canelo who outlanded GGG (in both fights) , Chenko matched Jacobs 137 /137 on power punches.
    Thats why he ran Jacobs so close or arguably beat him. Power punches are far more meaningful than total punches and Canelo outlanded GGG in that department..
    Canelo Outlanded him , hit him with more variety , fought with better defense , dictated the pace of the fight , rendered GGG a jab merchant , exposed him as a bully.. It is what it is :smile:
     
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  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Yeahhhhh, that couple second stretch looks beyond sketchy. That is all I've watched of it. Obvious agenda is obvious.
     
  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    First fight: GGG

    Second fight: Canelo
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    People won't like to read your last couple posts here for obvious reasons. But I feel they probably should. Being honest with themselves, now that's a different story.
     
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  14. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    I'd trust compubox over this guy, the same idiot that had Pacquiao out landing and beating Mayweather. I'm sure we can all come up worth agenda driven slow motion bull**** to support our narrative.

    Canelo won and pretty comfortably and walked the bigger man down. Just like Lewis speed Vitali, no end of crying will change it.
     
  15. BCS8

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    I stopped reading here because:

    1) YDKSAB, since Golovkin OFTEN moves back as a defensive move and then catches the opponent with a counterattack
    2) I have pointed this out to you before, and yet you still play dumb.

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    3) Dino agenda is obvious.