GGG vs. Canelo 2. The only square thing about it could be the ring.

Well all 3 judges who scored the fight disagree with your assessment. Scores were 9-3, 8-4, & 6-6. I had it somewhere in the vicinity of 8-4, 7-5 Floyd, I actually had the 6th round a draw so maybe something like 7-4-1 Floyd or 6-5-1 if I give Canelo the 12th. This is right in line with the average of the judges. So it's not like having it 8-4, 7-5 Floyd is going out on a limb lol. If you don't give that many rounds to Canelo then that's your opinion, but that requires you to give a lot of close rounds to Floyd which is pretty evident of favoritism.

Again, rounds 2,3,4,6,10&12 were all rounds that could be argued for Canelo won. Rounds 1, 5 and 9 not as much in my estimation but still very close. Round 11 I thought Floyd won pretty clearly but not everyone sees it that way. Round 7 Floyd dominated which was his best most convincing round won, Round 8 Canelo was winning in the first half of the round then Floyd took over the round in the 2nd half, giving Floyd the round.

We've been over this countless times and I don't see how my view of this bout is seen as anything unreasonable. I don't think Canelo actually won 6 rounds like Ross had it, but even Ross admitted that overeall she thought Mayweather did better but that she arrived at a draw by scoring it round by round and that score wasn't representative of who did better in totality. I thought Ross was a little off like with giving Canelo round 8, but the bout as a whole was far from one-sided. It was without a doubt the closest fight Floyd had in years and one of the closest fights of Floyd's entire career, along with Castillo, Maidana 1, and arguably DLH. But with Maidana 1, though many see that as closer than the Canelo bout, Floyd didn't take Maidana as seriously as he took Canelo and he made that a more fan friendly fight. Compared to the Canelo bout, Floyd didn't even have to use the jab. So I mean, fans see that Maidana fight as closer than the Canelo fight, but that's because Floyd didn't take Maidana as seriously and still was able to win. By letting Maidana get in some offense and making it close, he was able to justify a rematch with Maidana that so that he wouldn't have to rematch Canelo because he knew that was a much more difficult fight than Maidana.

As far as Canelo's post fight comments, I think he was just showing his respect to Mayweather rather than trying to argue that he won. Undoubtedly Canelo had difficultly landing gloves on Floyd at times, Floyd was very elusive in that match, but there certainly were moments that he landed leather on Mayweather.

 

You're now as bad as those Pac 'fans' who claim if you watch 'their' Mayweather fight upsidedown backwards in slow motion with the sound off and the them of Kenan and Kel on repeat that it's clear as day Manny actually won.

 

That's quite a reach to compare Pac fans slow-motioning May - Pac to argue Pac won to me pointing out clear punch stat discrepancies in specific rounds of Canelo Golovkin. Canelo Golovkin was clearly closer and arguable for either guy than May - Pac. I mean did Pac land the kind of bombs on Floyd that Canelo landed on Golovkin? Obviously not, May - Pac was much more of a low output fight than Canelo - Golovkin. Anybody can count punches, but it's far more effective to put the official Compubox numbers to the test and actually show how flawed they are.

 

I do, too. I don't like how often the cynical viewpoint in boxing turns out to be accurate. The only people getting punched around more than boxing fans are the fighters themselves.

 

So, can we still count on one hand how many people had Canelo winning?

Or do we need to use two hands now?

 

The safe call from the Alvarez slurpers is.."A draw was fair!!"
Most don't have the balls to claim canelo actually won. That says it all.

 

I watched this fight in a Mexican-American household and everyone there agreed GGG won.

 

This is how it will go:

1) I try to be objective and timestamp a round with what seems correct to me.
2) You try to be objective wearing Canel - O - Vision goggles and credit him with lots of stuff that I disagree with.
3) I get pissed off and do the same the next round for Golovkin
4) They each end up dead after landing 2139 punches on each other and we end up insulting each other.
5) The End

Do you really want to kill off our favourite boxers?

Well, do you?

 

lol wow that's quite a picture your painting. You're not even giving this a chance.

How about this, I'll start by giving you the most obvious Round 8 landed jabs by Canelo. You can check my timestamps and give a yay or nay for if you see them landing or not. They're pretty clear honestly but if you don't think one of them landed, just explain what you see and we can agree to disagree. No one needs to get pissed off over this lol. This is a very useful exercise to build a bridge between a Canelo fan and Golovkin fan. You said in the past that while you counted punches per round, and got a similar (but closer) number to compubox in this round, you didn't differentiate between jabs and power punches, right?

This is very useful and relevant because just recently you cited the large discrepancy of landed jabs between Canelo and Golovkin as one of your main reasons why Golovkin won so clearly, right? Well this exercise speaks directly to that point. Are you willing to check my timestamps for round 8?

 

You'll get a rare apology from me here as I thought you were talking about Mayweather vs Canelo. Full disclosure.

Anyway I still think Golovkin won clearly but agree compubox can be misleading. The very name suggests there is no human element when there is to anyone who knows how it actually works.

 

GGG can K.O Canelo and his fans will still think he won.

 

Yes but you’re talking about three awful judges,as much as Floyd ruled the roost at this time I think it’s clear that yet again in another Canelo fight we had some awful judging and the draw scorecard is every bit as bad as 118/110 andFloyd was shocked it wasn’t unanimous is all.
GGG fight was a close competitive fight and the result which wasn’t unreasonable was again overshadowed by corruption cause to be sure there’s not a judge on earth who could be as inept to think Canelo won 118/110 we can agree on that much Shadow can’t we?

 

Yes all that’s needed is a few months to go by and they all play this GGG fans have such short memories we can psy op em by telling em it was actually Canelo that won that **** lol.
You know the funny thing about this is how Canelo assumes the same thing so straight after the fight he was over the moon with a draw,few months passes and it’s”Hey Holovkin my friend you won’t be needing your own judges this time”
Lol I don’t mind Canelo but the guys got some serious cheek to try and impose his own crap on GGG who lets face it wanted the fight so bad would of fought in a pink Leotard had they asked.
Canelo does get his fare share of stick thoughfrom his own country,there’s a Mexican boxing presenter who gets stuck into him for comparing himself to Chavez and asking why he never fought like he said re true Mexican style,it’s the only time I seen him embarrassed lol.

 

Lol at a point in The fight Canelo was going to do a Duran in there he won rounds that Mayweather let him win you take being a Canelo fanboys boy to a different level and I suppose he easily won the trout and Lara fights to

 

Oh so Canelo did win rounds then, but it wasn't that he won them himself, it was that Mayweather let him win them. OK that's interesting, haven't heard that one before. At least that's progress I guess.

As far as Canelo pulling a Duran, I don't know about that. I think that's a little much. But no I'm not a Canelo fanboy at all, and I don't think he easily won the Trout or Lara fights. He had more trouble with Lara than he had with Trout, but I thought they were both close.