GGG vs Canelo rematch

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  1. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I don't want to see a rematch, there is no point. GGG can't win a decision against Canelo and with Canelo's cast iron chin I don't think he can knock him out. If he would go to the body with as spent as Alvarez was I think he could have stopped him, but apparently GGG doesn't body punch anymore.
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Meaning Canelo fought a more free flowing go-with-the-flow type of fight. It didn't seem like he was really following a specific gameplan or anything vs G. I can't criticize his performance because he landed some bombs on G, and fought well off the ropes, but I mean he didn't really attempt to duck the jab and get inside as much as I expected. Basically what I'm getting at is Canelo arguably won this fight without even having to take it into high gear. Now that he's been in there with G, I think he knows what he's dealing with and will be able to develop a gameplan more suited to Golovkin's style.
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't see how you can call yourself a boxing fan if you don't want to see a rematch. Please explain yourself.
     
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  4. icarus

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    I think GGG will go to the body a lot more next time. Think canelo will sit on the ropes for 8 rounds if that's happening? I don't.
     
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  5. vargasfan1985

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    Which is why he outlanded him 10 of 12 rounds you moron
     
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  6. shadow111

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    Well he hardly went to the body at all. Canelo was the only one body punching.
     
  7. shadow111

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    Not in terms of significant clean flush punches.
     
  8. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    GGG won, vast majority of writers and fighters had him winning, deal with it.
     
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  9. FadedDreamsV

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    Golovkin was very effective for most of the fight. Maybe not efficient, but Canelo's counter punching wasn't exactly on a Mayweather level either, where Mayweather manages to control the pace of his fights and make his opponents look stupid, even if they are the aggressors. Golovkin had this guy against the ropes for the majority of the fight, controlled the pace, landed more shots, clean or not, and pretty much mauled him. He wasn't efficient, in that his shots weren't the cleanest, and he never hurt Canelo much, but he was very effective in his overall control and ring management. Canelo was basically effective in surviving and landing clean counter shots at times, but he never managed to slow Golovkin down or prevent himself from getting constantly backed and punched. That combined with more overall shots landed from GGG should easily spell a GGG victory. At least, imo.
     
  10. shadow111

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    Why don't you deal with the fact that the fight was a draw? That was the verdict.
     
  11. vargasfan1985

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    That is the beauty of boxing. We all know who really wins and loses. Hide behind the draw.
     
  12. shadow111

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    He had him against the ropes, not for the majority of the fight, it might seem like that to you, but it really was only a small amount of the fight. When Canelo went there, he went voluntarily to prove a point. G couldn't do anything with him on the ropes and that was one of the more entertaining parts of the fight. Personally I thought Canelo should have held center ring more, but the fact is that Canelo was landing some of his best punches while fighting off the back foot. G wasn’t able to land anything with Canelo on the ropes and that was something that not many G fans thought he could do.

    I agree about the ring management, G utilized consistent aggression, not necessarily effective aggression but consistent nonetheless and that influenced the judges obviously. Had Canelo not backed up as much, he probably would have won since he landed the better quality punches. He didn’t really slow G down that much, but just paused him in his tracks a few times. G looked very pensive in the early rounds, and kinda started becoming more comfortable (G that is) after the fight warmed up. So I think that had more to do with G getting into the fight than him not feeling Canelo’s punches. I think he clearly felt Canelo’s power, even grimaced once if I recall, but nothing really wobbled either fighter, that much is clear.
     
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  13. shadow111

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    I'm not hiding behind anything. It was declared a draw. I'm not the one complaining about 118-110.
     
  14. rorschach51

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    I know who won convincingly, he will never get a official decision against this fighter in Vegas, so what's the point. GGG won 8-4 to 7-5 yet gets a draw, meaning he would have to win every round dominantly or get a KO to get a decision in Vegas. Just move on and unify with Saunders or move up and fight the winner of the WBSS SMW tourney, but there is no point in rematching a guy you already clearly beat just because Vegas is corrupt. He can make big money fighting the WBSS winner in the UK, why make Golden Boy anymore money. I've been watching this sport for over 30 years, I know I'm a boxing fan if that explanation isn't good enough for you then oh well at least I acknowledged your post.
     
  15. shadow111

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    How can you seriously not want to see a rematch? Do you really think G vs Saunders will be more entertaining than a rematch with Canelo? Besides, Canelo is still Lineal and Ring Middleweight Champ. If you don't think G can beat Canelo in Vegas, then you might as well just hand over the titles to Canelo. If you can't admit that Canelo did well in there vs G, then you're extremely biased. Most G fans thought Canelo was getting KO'd. He landed some bombs on G. Show some respect.
     
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