GGG vs Canelo should never have gone past 8 rds

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by travolt, Sep 17, 2017.


  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Golovkin's jab was awesome!!!!!!! I wish he had used some body punches, but he didn't throw that many, Alvarez' body punches had not effect on Golovkin neither did his head shots, Golovkin walked right through him. Alvarez said he learned from his fight with Void, yes, he learned how do run, but he got his arse kicked on the ropes. Golovkin was not Chavez, Jr.
     
  2. travolt

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    The only way Gennady was going to get his superfight is by giving guarantees the Canelo golden gooze wouldn't get wrecked for future PPV riches.

    In the Jacobs fight, they tested Gennady to see if he could refrain from using his left to the liver while still giving a good account of himself.

    Abel Sanchez knows everybody in the Mexican boxing world; being the snake he is, he used these connections for good - very good- mutual profit.
     
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  3. Radrook

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    The value of coming forward in a boxing match has to be be gauged in relation to its effectiveness.

    How much of it is being neutralized by the opponent?

    How much of the opponent's giving ground is forced and how much is it a stylistic choice or smart ring generalship because of a difference in size and power?

    For example, Marvin Hagler kept telling SRL to stand still and fight but he refused. Ali often danced and picked his shots in order to avoid getting caught flush against potentially dangerous punchers. Were their opponent's carrying the fight while getting ridiculously outpointed?

    In short, only sheer stupidity would make a non-slugger choose to make slugging his predominant tactic against a renown slugger. It's a matter of making the smart stylistic choice.

    The same holds true in chess. Some players prefer a tactically complex game while others prefer a slower game which demands more subtle maneuvering and long-term strategy.

    Each chooses a style which he feels comfortable with and which increases the likelihood of victory. Nothing al all illogical about it nor is it worthy of criticism. It's simply just common sense.
     
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  4. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I felt like Canelo was the one on the verge of being stopped in the 10th, not GGG
     
  5. dinovelvet

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    lol.
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Welter weight Brook took the hook to the body better than Macklin did. Took it clean in round 1.. It knocked Macklin clean out , it didn't even drop Brook.
    Higher level guys are better conditioned to take a punch and are harder to beat. There's a reason GGG has struggled in his last two fights and was unable to fold them in half like he did with his previous opponents.
     
  7. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think it was a conspiracy. I just thought GGG lost a step and wasn't able to get close enough to land his feet and work the body. That's all I saw. This isn't prime GGG remember, this is 36 year old GGG who has been taking shots to the head most of his pro career. You don't want to get up close to Canelo because he can swing hooks to the body as well. Working GGG's body would perhaps have led to Canelo's best chance of winning this fight legitimately. Like if GGG's working the body, and Canelos' snaps one to the liver himself, the fight is over.
     
  8. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    lol.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    I also do not get the lack of bodywork by Golovkin.

    His punches to the midsection are better than Canelo's and EXACTLY what you want to slow down and soften up a faster, younger fighter. His liver shot aka "my lucky punch" is a sickening weapon. Add to this the rumour that Canelo can't take it to the body. Add to this the fact that Canelo's head movement and upper body defence is really outstanding.

    All I can imagine is that Team GGG was scared of getting lit up by counters and that's why they avoided going low. Maybe they were scared that the ref was bought and would call body shots low blows? Although the ref was actually pretty good and they fought clean except for that cheeky little behind-the-back shot by Alvarez that didn't do damage anyway.

    I don't believe the "this fight was rigged" angle except for it being rigged through the abysmal judging.
     
  10. BCS8

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    That's a good point.

    And here's another one on energy expenditure: GGG was in the centre of the ring most of the fight and Canelo was running a marathon on the outside track in addition to his bobbing and twisting. I bet Canelo must have covered twice the distance Golovkin did in total that fight.

    Where Canelo did impress me was his late fight rally. I thought he was cooked stamina-wise after the 9th. But his youth and hard training paid off in spades and he was able to mount a comeback late. Never expected that. Let him try that in 10 years time ;)
     
  11. shoe

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    i thought when g had him backed up to the ropes and canelo was blocking the left hook to the head that he should be open to one to the liver, but i'll defer to gmans judgment.
     
  12. puncherschance

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    canelo took it to gggs body early and often, perhaps ggg felt the power and didn't want to trade downstairs? the fact that canelo worked the body helped him take steam off of gggs shots.

    i think ggg respected canelos power and skill set a lot more than any of you did. even being the naturally smaller man canelo was able to hang and give ggg the toughest fight of his career and before you say jacobs, canelo didn't get knocked down.
     
  13. travolt

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    Canelo worked nothing at all; he could hardly land a jab when Gennady was outside.
    It's perfectly absurd not to work the body and make it a trench warfare when the whole galaxy knows perfectly well they're going to screw you on the cards and your hook to the liver is superior to your opponent's.

    Abel the snake is on the record to have been "surprised" Canelo retreated so much; how much lying can one do ?

    Can anyone believe Golden Boy was trully courageous enough to let his Cash cow and it's fake machismo get demolished to smithereens by GGG without a sting in place ?

    This fight was a farce.
     
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  14. Forza

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    body shots leave your head vulnerable to a counter and canelo has nasty counters
     
  15. travolt

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    Again, do you believe Hoya was going to serve his cashcow on a plate to be destroyed in 4 rds by a Kazach ?

    Canelo has connections ever since his draw score with PBF; he fills whole stadiums.

    All this crashes down when Gennady annihilates him.

    There's hundreds of millions at stake.

    Gennady just bought his invitation to the big buffet.