GGG vs James TONEY @ 160lb

BCS8 · May 13, 2017

THE BLADE 2 said: ↑

He would be favoured to win against GGG, in my opinion.It would be a great fight and might very well go the distance.GGG is a HOF himself who has serious skills and power.
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Now that's a more nuanced argument

Loudon · May 14, 2017

BCS8 said: ↑

Toney had a whole series of underwhelming performances at 160. It's undeniable, yet there's a raft of excuses for these sucky performances. Well, OK.

But let's look at the flipside.

Can anybody imagine Tiberi or Sanderline Williams or professional loser Danny Thomas (19-37-1) lasting longer than 3 with GGG? Seriously?

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What are you trying to prove?

GG is a puncher. Although Toney could hit, he was more of a boxer.

My guess is that if GG had've had Toney's schedule where he was fighting every few months, then every once in a while, you'd have see B and C class guys hanging with him.

Loudon · May 14, 2017

chitownfightfan said: ↑

Toney was a 90s fighter when Victor Conte was beefing up fighters like Evan Feilds and making guys like Canseco and McGwire, Sosa and Bonds, alongs with Griffey Jr etc etc etc hitting homeruns like they were having batting practice with aluminum bats.

In todays era, Toney would be tested, suspended, then go natural without juice and wind up like an uglier version of Darnell Boone except with a worse record.

At least RJJ had real athleticism and speed, something Toney ALWAYS lacked.

He'd slipped and slide his head right into GGGs hooker-cuts and OH L's, R's and eat his jab all night if he dared to leave his shell and come forward.
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A worse record than Darnell Boone?

Ha!

No.

Loudon · May 14, 2017

chitownfightfan said: ↑

Don't argue with nostalgia fans.

You'll never win.

I grew up watching 8mm tapes of Louis, Schmelling, Marciano, SRR etc etc etc and watched Ali live on free TV, watched NO MAS, all the while, my pops, dad, uncles and cousins would argue as to who beats who.

Personally, I was stuck on Larry Holmes and SRL, but my pops, he watched Marciano in the movie theaters, and it was his opinion that Holmes, Ali, Norton, Foreman etc etc etc wouldnt last a handful of rds vs the Rock.

Pops passed in 81, and my dad and uncles all thought it was Cooney who rule the roost.

He came and went, and then came Tyson.

While Spinks was twice gifted wins over Holmes, Tyson wasn't a runner, and being a nostalgia fan, I KNEW.....FUKKING KNEW, that Holmes, even at his age, and with all them rds, was gonna school Tyson, and then came reality.

Hagler gets robbed by Leonard........ Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer, Foreman, and Chavez take over the premium game as Tyson sits in an Indiana penitentiary.

The middle and lower weight classes were something of a sidenote until RJJ began his dominance.

These days, people are saying that Calzaghe would school Ward and Kovalev etc etc etc.

On and on it goes.

Toney was a tough SOB undoubtedly, but like BHOP, he fought in a weak era, and ppl criticize GGG, who is only now, nearing typical retirement age, getting the legacy fights, ie Rubio, Geale, Murray, Lemieux, Brook, Jacobs, and now Alvarez.
He was ducked by WBC Champions Chavez Jr and Martinez, he also waited 28 months as mandatory to Sturm, and finally the WBA, having created the interim/regular title, gave him a title fight, and even after that, fighters like Sturm, Geale, and Barker, and Quillin found ways to avoid him.
41 y/o Sam Soliman was going to fight him, but not after winning that title, and then crazy @ss Taylor got it.

It's been a 6 yr duck-fest in the MW division, while guys were lining up to fight Toney, BHop, Winky, Oscar, etc.

GGG is a once in a lifetime fighter.

Sad that his prime yrs, 28-33, were spent being avoided like he was Ebola.
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Are your posts serious, or are you just having some fun?

The MW division wasn't a side note, and how the hell did James fight in a weak era?

Loudon · May 14, 2017

BCS8 said: ↑

So we're talking:

1 His win over Reggie Johnson where he was KD in the process
2 His draw with McCallum
3 His UD win with McCallum 2
4 His win over Nunn where he actually got pasted for most of the fight.

That's pretty much it. The best wins Toney had at MW, and they weren't all that convincing.

McCallum and Nunn I think were pretty good, so props there.

But this record in no way suggests to me that at MW Toney is somehow heavily favoured to TKO Golovkin.

Hells no.
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McCallum and Nunn were more than "pretty good"

Reinhardt · May 19, 2017

I'd go with GGG by a close decision, McCallum gave Toney all he wanted and doesn't carry nearly the kick of Golovkin. Toney is not a mover so he'd be trying to counter after getting hit constantly and he'd end up taking the harder punches in the fight. Be a good one

HerolGee · May 19, 2017

oh goodness no toney is too much for 3G and g cant stop him to rescue his points losing.

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