GGG vs James Toney at 160.

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Who wins?

  1. Toney by decision.

  2. Toney by stoppage.

  3. Ladies and gentieman we have a draw!!!

  4. GGG by decision.

  5. GGG by stoppage.

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You have already been told that Roy didn’t use his jab against Toney.
     
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  2. Mendoza

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    Jacobs and Canelo ( Robbery aside ), past his prime.

    Reggie lost a lot. Yet he floored Toney and almost beat a him in his prime. That shows Toney's level. GGG would knock him out.
     
  3. Mendoza

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    Okay, Roy didn't use his jab vs Toney. Do you believe what you are typing?" Roy pissed on Toney, who I think didn't want to risk it while way behind.
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    How many punchers on GGG level did Johnson fight? No I think Johnson who lost 7 times to 6 different men, many of who were not on GGG level would lose to GGG.

    Who's Johnson's best win? Steve Collins whom he barely edged? Yep. Collins might be Johnson's lone win over a currently ranked top ten opponent, that is is Collins was actually ranked when the fight happened. Can you confirm that?

    That's logic, try and use it.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Mendoza showing yet again how little he knows. Collins was absolutely not Reggie's only ranked win.

    The idea that GGG would beat a prime Roy Jones Jr on his best night is a right laugh as well.
     
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  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He did not beat Canelo!! So that one is out ! Why do you think Jacobs is a better win than Johnson?
     
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  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Honest score cards. Yes he did. Just like Toney did not beat Tiberi. Honest fans admit this type of stuff.

    :banana:____FANBOY____:banana:
     
  8. Mendoza

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    Collins is Reggie Johnson's best win, that's it. Johnson lost 7 times to 6 different men, and has some draws. I know fanboy, he floored James Toney and lost a close one, so you need to over inflate Johnson as much as possible.

    Jacobs has beaten better fighters, and has a much cleaner record.
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But it is only your opinion. Canelo won the fight, fact. Check boxrec of you do not believe me.So Canelo is of course out.

    Now, why do you think the Jacobs win is better than the Reggie win?
     
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I have plenty of 3rd party opinion that he won the fight. Do you think Canelo won it, just like you said initially felt that Holyfield beat Lewis?
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    opinion ^. I am talking about wins, please see here for that https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/356831. You do know the difference between a win and a loss, don't you?

    Now one last try: Why do you rate the Jacobs win higher than the Reggie win? Seems to be a baseless position as you are not answering.
     
  12. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I answered it, Jacobs beat better fighters and lost a lot less. Jacobs > R Johnson.

    Now just so I understand you, who do felt won GGG vs Canelo 1? Can you reply?




    Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin
    Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw
    Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw
    Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin
    Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin
    Sports Illustrated: 114-114 draw
    Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin
    Lance Pugmire (La Times): 114-114 draw
    *******: 114-114 draw
    Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin
    Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw
    The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin
    Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin
    The Associated Press: 114-114 draw
    Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw
    Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin
    Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin
    George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw
    Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin
    Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw
    Sherdog . com: 116-112 Golovkin
    Jai Bednall (news . com . au): 115-113 Golovkin
    Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw
    Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin
    Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin
    Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin
    Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin
    Below The Belt Podcast: 115-113 Golovkin
    World Boxing News: 115-113 Golovkin


    Media cards,

    Harold Lederman (HBO Sports): 116-112 Golovkin

    Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin

    Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw

    Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw

    Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin

    Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin

    Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin

    Lance Pugmire (La Times): 114-114 draw

    Box Scene: 114-114 draw

    Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin

    Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw

    The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin

    Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin

    Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

    Sherdog: 116-112 Golovkin

    Jai Bednall (news.com.au): 115-113 Golovkin

    Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw

    Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin


    Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin

    Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin

    The Associated Press: 114-114 draw

    Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw

    Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin

    Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin

    Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin

    George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw

    Below The Belt Podcast: 115-113 Golovkin

    World Boxing News: 115-113 Golovkin

    Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin
     
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  13. McGrain

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    ^ Not sure i've ever seen so many ringsider drawn cards for a fight, ever.

    I had that one a draw.
     
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  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GGG vs Canelo was scored a draw. By the way, the large majority also thought Toney won the Mc Callum I fight. Fact is GGG never beatr Canelo.

    Now since you are not answering to my question, I take this then as an implict acknowlegdememt that the Reggie win is better than the Jacobs win.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Draw? That puts you in the extreme minority. Well over 2/3 felt GGG won.

    GGG landed more punches in 10 of 12 rounds. 218-169 with the percent landed close to even between the two.