GGG vs James Toney at MW

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Big Ukrainian, Sep 20, 2017.


Who wins

  1. GGG points

    25.2%
  2. James Toney points

    55.3%
  3. GGG KO

    6.8%
  4. James Toney KO

    9.7%
  5. Draw (50/50)

    2.9%
  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You labelled Jacobs as an A level fighter. He clearly isn't.

    No, he doesn't share similarities with a slick southpaw who had great technical abilities and reflexes.
     
  2. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You never watched him yet stuck "elite" to his name. Why? I've watched plenty of Nunn's fights, including the one against Toney at MW. Nunn's resume is not that good at MW. Barkley is overrated as hell, and Kalambay is the only other world level guy he beat. Roldan was at the end of his career.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Unless we're going to discuss the possible outcome of this fantasy fight based upon the styles and attributes of each guy, then I think it's pretty pointless in continuing this debate.
     
  4. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, Jacobs isn't an A-Level fighter. He only took GGG to the brink of defeat even more so than Canelo. You really have no idea what the hell you're typing, do you?
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, I'm saying I never watched him live as I was only about 11 at the time.

    I've had to educate myself on his career later on in life.

    Sumbu Kalambay was an A level guy.

    Go and watch their fights before commenting further.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jacobs isn't an A level fighter.

    Oh my.

    Seriously, how can you even dispute that?

    Start a thread and do a poll.

    You'll get laughed off of the forum.
     
  7. tekkennlee

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    Lazy out of shape James loses

    In shape James Toney wins an unanimous decision or stoppage in the 10 round book it
     
  8. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Care to dispute this further?
    "Johnson, Castro and JDJ shared wins and losses. None of them are on Jacob's level, sorry. They're just not."

    Seems I never got a reply for that new information I brought to the table, I was wondering why the hell not. Seeing as you think Johnson was a better fighter than Jacobs, than you must think JDJ and Castro was as well seeing as they are on the same level. The Martin Murray and David Lemule level.
     
  9. tekkennlee

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    You want to see James Toney vs GGG watch Mayweather vs. Gatti. A slow and i mean average hand speed compared to James Toney and Mayweather a plotting power puncher vs a fast counter puncher that is a master of Defense and the shoulder roll

    GGG would get countered to death
     
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  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You never posed the question directly to me.

    Technically, I believe that Reggie was a better fighter than Danny Jacobs. He also consistently fought better fighters. But I think he underachieved a little. Personally, I'd have liked to have seen him have a run at SMW, instead of moving straight up to LHW.

    Seeing as though you've mentioned that you didn't watch U.S. fighters from the 90's, it seems obvious to me that you're trying to rate these guys based on BoxRec stats. Reggie fought Castro twice in Argentina. You've never seen those fights. Whilst I think that Reggie was technically better, you could say that Jacobs may have shared a similar level of success in the 90's. But we don't know that. And again, to label one of those elite whilst labelling the other one as a journeyman, just smacks of ignorance.

    In my opinion, Reggie Johnson was a better fighter than Martin Murray.

    I'm just tired of this now. Again, we stopped discussing the possible outcome of a GG-Toney fight an awful long time ago, and we both know that you haven't seen the fighters that we've been discussing. If you hadn't have used BoxRec, you wouldn't have known that Reggie had fought Castro. You probably don't know who Castro is. Not really. Therefore, it's pointless in taking this any further.

    I'm off to bed.

    I just need my 1994 poster of Roy, some ****, and some Kleenex.

    Goodnight.
     
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  11. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't forget to wipe your internet history to hide your fetish website.
     
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  12. tekkennlee

    tekkennlee Member Full Member

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    James Toney barely even trained for those guys, if you remember James was ballooning up between fights and fighting at light heavyweight cruiser-weightat those times. Hell he ballooned up 200 to 300 pounds before fighting Roy Jones Jr, that's what pissed me off then we heard he took diet pills before the fight, he did this before at middle weight. Why do you think he looked dead and slow against Roy. If Tarver can KO Roy, Toney could of he was a better fighter then Tarver was but that's another topic.
     
  13. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    JDJ said he would have KO'd Golovkin. LOL
     
  14. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kovalev would have trouble knocking out GGG, never mind that 2 faced POS.
     
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  15. escudo

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    I'm taking Toney on points. Though GGG's jab is a bit problematic, Toney had a couple inches of reach on him and had a damn good jab of his own. He had faster hands and and a chin of iron. Toney might be the worst stylistic match-up for GGG. An iron chinned counter puncher who could jab, was insanely accurate and owned the best inside game ever. I think he hit a bit harder than Canelo as well. GGG would get countered reapeatedly (like Barkley did) if and when he went to the body.

    BTW, thanks @KiwiMan for using my articles they way I intended. I wanted them to become not only a way for me to hustle a bit of money, but also an instant reference for my readers in arguments just like these.
     
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