GGG vs James Toney at MW

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Big Ukrainian, Sep 20, 2017.


Who wins

  1. GGG points

    25.2%
  2. James Toney points

    55.3%
  3. GGG KO

    6.8%
  4. James Toney KO

    9.7%
  5. Draw (50/50)

    2.9%
  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Only McCallum and Jones were on Canelos level, Nunn made too many mistakes against Toney, Dundee told him to follow his jabs with the straight left to stop Toney from countering but he didn`t and got KO`d by a counter right, plus when Nunn was tired he fell apart and would of against GGG far more than Canelo did he still fought great in spurts while gassing and could still take shots at the end of his fight while riding blows Nunn left his head unguarded and upright after he punched that`s how GGG would have KO`d him.
     
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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Nunn made a lot of mistakes that would have been really punished by GGG during his fight vs Toney.
     
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  3. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    None at middleweight, and the one guy who has an argument for it at 168, he lost on points wide. Then came excuse city because he couldn't control himself at the buffet line. What happened at the higher weights isn't relevant to this fight, but I have no problem giving him props for being a hell of a cruiserweight. He was a fine fighter at 160-175, but he put it all together there.

    Old McCallum & TiberI werent as good as GGG at 160. Nobody Toney beat there was.
     
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  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was a hell of a Cruiserweight and I enjoyed watching his work in the pocket at heavyweight. The asterisk is there, but he was fun to watch in the fight fights.
     
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  5. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    ... except for that Brook actually weighed more during the weigh in :rolleyes:

    Pimple's master plan to beat GGG: get your face broken and sent to hospital in 5 rnds.

    :ambulance:

    Great success!

    Except for that he outlanded them both and bossed them around the ring.

    Against McCallum and Nunn, Toney got tarted up by punches and outlanded. Featherfist Tiberi put down a whooping on him. Did anybody actually watch the Sanderline Williams fight? Williams would have gotten his ass kicked by half the guys on GGG's resume and yet he put a bombing on Toney. Toney needed 2 tries to beat the janitor, essentially.
     
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  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    not that I've seen, Toneys was on the button.
     
  7. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Why are you trying to defend GGG fighting a welterweight moving up 2 weights? Toney weighed more than half these HW's he fought would you say he was the bigger guy?

    GGG didn't boss anything in the Brook fight, he caused an eye-injury to Brook and won the fight from there. Round 2 of Brook vs GGG he got beaten from pillar to post, I've never seen GGG dominated like that in his entire career and it remains the most comprehensive losing round for GGG in any of his fights.....all done by a welterweight lol.

    Did anybody actually watch the Sanderline Williams fight? Many people were actually picking Williams to win that fight so I've no idea what you're talking about there.
     
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  8. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree. The best part of third thread was Nunn fans sticking him in with the other elites of the sport like GGG, SRL, Hagler, Ali.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Brook exposed that GGG was a sucker for the uppercut and that he could be easily outboxed. If Brook was the a natural MW he probably could have beaten GGG because he could outbox him easily.

    If GGG went life and death with both Jacobs and Canelo he loses to McCallum hands down who's another top 80 ATG. There's is nothing to suggest that GGG can beat a guy who's as good as the body snatcher. If Canelo landed on GGGs body alot McCullum would have him pissing blood after the fight as much as he would punish GGG to the body all night long.
     
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  10. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am not sure GGG was better than Mc Callum or Nunn.It should be the other way around. GGG certainly has not beaten anybody as good as Toney.
     
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  11. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    LMAO

    You putting GGG on the same line as SRL, Hagler, Ali!!!!

    That's the real joke here!

    You are completely delusional.
     
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  12. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It´s a bit funny and a bit odd how some people still talk Toney as the best middleweight ever and how he would outbox Golovkin or even KO him. How bias and dumb one can be?

    24 years old James Toney was on his absolute peak at MW around the time he fought Tiberi with 30-0-2 going into this fight. Three months earlier he had gotten a draw against Mike McCallum and 9 months before, taken his signature win against Nunn (IMO he was loosing the fight on points before the stoppage). His second fight against Williams was only 14 month earlier. If you are really special, you wont have these kind of performances during 2 years time span. People please! He was a great boxer, but not that good.

    Imagine if any of the current elite fighters around (Golovkin, Canelo, Crawford, Loma, Thurman etc) had the similar record coming into year 2017? Toney would not be praised for his boxing skills nor labeled as a total package or real deal. He would be a b-level fighter like every other fighter nowdays who had a bad nights in their past (good example: Lemieux and Jacobs). Golovkin has been at the top for 8 years now (37-0-1) and you are giving him stick for going 12 rds with Canelo and Jacobs. That if something is double standards :D

    No way you could argue Toney (1992) would be invinsible at middleweight, far from that. And yes, Golovkin would beat his ass easily with the jab alone not to mention body attack or other weapons he posses.
     
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  13. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with everything you just said apart from Jacobs being a B-Level fighter. He'd be clear favourite vs Lemule for most people I'd imagine.
     
  14. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    This is probably one of the worst posts I've ever read on this site in over 10 years of being a member, along with @Ilikeboxing 's "GGG, SRL, Hagler, Ali." post which coincidentally also appeared in this thread.

    Thanks for the laughs.
     
  15. trinibbq

    trinibbq New Member Full Member

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    Man give some of what you're smoking. Roy had legit one punch knockout power against formidable opponents. He hits harder than GGG and does so with quicker and better combinations. How the **** is GGG supposed to walk through multiple RJJ power shots
     
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