GGG vs Lara - a sweet boxing match

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  1. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    team GGG said he will fight anyone from 154 - 168 and i (me personally feel this way..not felt among my peers, well some have my belief that GGG has everything (and shown the unbelievable talent, honed skills, stamina) to be the absoluet best in would and expect him to beat anyone at those weights,

    yup i said it.
    But, i will say i onlye see him draining to 154 or building to 168 ( he is eventually going to 168 anyways) for a big big money fight.
    i doubt he would drop to 154 for little known lara who if fought will give him no resistense. this fight would be good for me only
    to see him blow lara out like he was some absolute novice with no chin.

    lara would have trouble taking GGG's stiff jabs never mind thinking about taking a flush shot from GGG. i want the fight only to shut some people up. GGG gets mad hate because he destroys everyone he fight. so they say he fought nobody yet those same nobodys give the other top MW's hell.. for some reason lara is now the second coming and GGG is unproven, so according to most fans on here GGG blows lara out he should get props, right.

    GGG fighting lara does nothing for me. he is far and away the best MW.. and he doesnt have any competition. if martinez gets by cotto and somehow finds a reason to fight GGG he will suffer the same fate as lare. i think martinez would last a round or 2 more than lara but both get blown out.

    people trying to make some kind of claim that GGG and floyd should fight, WTF, i agree floyd has no real comp from 140-154 but GGG is a whole other animal than anyone there. why not paq fight GGG ? i know, thats a mismatch but , you want someone (floyd) who is just as small as paq to fight GGG ?

    you guys have been looking and making boogiemen for floyd for the last 15 years and they alll either got whooped by floyd or proved to be not near his level. I understand people wanting floyd and paq to fight (same size) to see if paq could hit the lottlo, which never could happen. in truth paq would have a better chance of hitting the real lotto (lol ok mabe i went a little too far).

    we all know styles make fights but, that can be taken only so far. if lara had ,say, a prime ODH or GGG's chin and GGG's or Marrtinez power he could cause major problems and could see some people even picking the updset. The cold hard facts are lara has a weaker side chin ( for MW's it will be even worse)and only good power (at 154 and he doesnt seem like someone that will gain much more power going to 160) so he has no chance, martinez doesnt have the stamina or chin to be ( even capable) of pulling off the upset.

    paq has good power for a WW but not 1 punch KO power unless he lands the perfect shot ( see hatton ko ) yet 90% of pros have KO power with the perfect shot. so everyone clarmoring for this floyd - paq fight are going to get their wish within the next year. 12 months, and what are some on here going to do when floyd whitewashes him and the "pillow fists) tko's that ass.

    I give these fights the same crediants (not exactly sure which word i was looking for lol ) lara has as much chance as upsetting GGG as paq has of upsetting floyd. god, all i want for my bday is these two figh this year. in truth i say they wont mean anything to me, these fights will not chance my opinions of these 4 what so ever but i would get excited and the 100% truth for the excitement is for this to shut certain haters up. But within 90 dasys some new boogieman will suddently appear.

    the worst part is,many more ALTs will show up because people lose so much credibilty with the amount of sh!t they talk . they think creating a new account and talking the same mad BS hides them... lol some of know who owns which ALT. they been called out on them.

    so conclusion is styles make fights unless you are lacking the most important skills needed for certain opponents. lara doesnt have what he needs an paq doesnt have what he needs. 2 mismatches that i will relish in and if people give their true opinions on here many clowns will be upset.

    i give my honest 100% opinions but sometimes even i go overboard but, its still the truth. Now i have to apologize for my rambling, i doubt more than a couple people with read it. but thanks in advanace for the few who do
     
  2. Cletis VanDamme

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    I think he's both, he's got heavy hands and can break his opponent down by staying at mid range but he can also take a step forward and set a knock out punch when needed, after either a feint or when he sees his opponent's open for the shot.
     
  3. Rock0052

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    +1.

    The reason we don't see more 1 punch KO's from Golovkin is that he doesn't hunt for the one shot- not every punch is thrown to knock a guy out. That'd be too easy for a skilled opponent to time after awhile, and even an unskilled operator would know what to prepare themselves for. He varies the force and speed of different shots in a combo so his opponents don't know what shot to brace for. He's still got the one-punch power in the arsenal, though.

    Along with Ishida and Macklin, the Simon fight is a good example of it- Simon went the distance with Abraham and had a great chin, and all it took was one GGG hook in the first to take him out.
     
  4. Eastcoast

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    Just rewatched Angulo-Lara, Lara took a lot of heavy shots from a 174lb Angulo and took them really well. I wanted HNN over Lee, but I'll take Lara over HNN. He probably has better durability at 160 and definitely better focus/discipline. Despaigne gave GGG some of his toughest amateur fights with that slick Cuban style.

    Considering GB doesn't pay Lara a ton (about 300k), they might be willing to step aside kind of like they did with Lara-Matirosyn. As a JMW, Lara walks into the ring at about 170lbs (he was told he had to be at a 'day of' limit of 164lbs vs Angulo, and then found out Angulo was allowed at 174lbs). Hopefully if Golovkin-Lara does happen, it's at a catch weight though.
     
  5. puncherschance

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    great, 2 boxers that butcher the english language lol all joking aside, would love to see this fight and see what ggg can do at 154. having never seen ggg at 154 i would have to give the edge to lara. his movement and reach would give good boy trouble.
     
  6. Staminakills

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    GGG has true devastating KO power in both hands. he does set everything up and doesnt really swing for the fences at all, everything is under and always on balance and that actually add to his power.

    GGG goes at it an tries to break his opponent down and does. they (all around his weight) can take only so many of his shots. a tough ass mofo with a chin can make it to the mid and even late rounds but there arent a bunch of those at the top level. Thats another thing that has me loving this dude, he is all under control, always in position to throw and i have yet to see any punch bother him.

    i have seen him accept punches like he knows they cant bother him.. stevens has real power especially at 160 and he landed a few power shots on GGG's button there was like 3/4 very nice ones in like round 4 - 6 and they bothered me more than GGG. people say adama stung him a couple times. i think people are more than exaggerating. if really true can someone give me a round, i hadnt wasted my time with that match and dont want to unless he was truly bothered by any shots.

    that would be huge if those couple people were being honest cause that could be a game changer
     
  7. chitownfightfan

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    I was following pretty closely, and mostly agreeing until you mentioned Pac vs GGG......

    First.....Pac is SMALLER than Floyd.
    2 or more inches shorter, and 5-10 lbs less walking weight.

    Both Pac and Floyd were at their best at LWW. But they moved up chasing DLH $$$$, and now they're here at WW dominating.

    GGG is still not peaked/prime. He is a smallish MW, but he's got plenty of room to bulk up to 168. 175 is out of the question IMO.

    Poor mgmt has had him campaigning at 160 when he should have started at 154 until he got the name fights, then moving up to 160 and eventually 168.

    However, while Pac would clown a guy like Andrade, a huge LMW, likely beat another in Lara and starch a plodder like Canelo.....he'd be at a serious disadvantage vs GGG and even Martinez, Sturm and :roflQuillin.

    Floyd vs Pac is the only fight worthy of Floyd Mayweather. GGG is out of the question, as Floyd has neither the chin or the size to handle anything GGG does and neither does Pac.

    I get that you think Floyd has too much for Pac, but both have 40-50 million reasons to see if your'e right. A close fight between the two would leave room for a rematch, and that would = maybe 100 million reasons.

    I don't think anyone, *****s and *******s included, would consider the fight to be a mismatch. Just as I don't think Golovtards or Haterz Inc would consider GGG vs Lara to be a complete mismatch anywhere between 154-160. However, the lower the weight, the higher % chance Lara has of winning the fight.

    Your'e entitled to you opinion, and I agree in part.....and yeah, you do ramble a bit.:yep So I hope you don't mind that I did a bit of cropping when I quote you. :thumbsup

    And yeah, I'd love to see Floyd vs Pac and GGG vs EVERYONE....and yeah, I agree the Haterz Inc would be STFU.....but I staunchly disagree that *****s would be dancing in the streets....MOF.....IMO, they'd join Haterz Inc in protest, calling Pac out for roids.....when in reality, Floyd and D Hale have been intimately involved for decades.

    As for a NEW BOOGEYMAN.......not if Floyd beat Pac, conclusively.....ie, legit KO, clear decision, even if by technicality like unitentional butts causing a cut and a decision, so long as it were like 7+rds.

    There is no boogeyman for Floyd outside Pac and viceversa. Marquez might be Pacs kryptonite, but Pac is still p4p #2 no matter how Roidquez:yep beat him.
     
  8. chitownfightfan

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    Really good call right there......ppl considered Abraham as the biggest punching MW of this era, but he never varied his power punching, not angles, timing, or speed.....

    GGG has soooooo many more tools that Abraham, yet Abe is considered something of a legend at 160......and GGG is the hypejob.:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  9. Staminakills

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    i agree with whast you say except those fights not being mismatches, to me they are th 2 easiest mismatches to call. you say floyd doesnt have the chin for GGG, i agree with that too. i agree GGG is just flat out too much for floyd and paq..

    where we differ hugey is call me crazy but i have seen floyds chin proven to be better tha laras and that the whole reason i see GGG destroying him.

    we differ with floyd and paq, i see that as on paper a nice match up but in the ring is see wide UD even late tko for floyd winning every time. another thing i disgree with is i see in a decade as canelo being floyds very best win because i think he is far better than what we saw.

    that only cause floyd robs people of their offense if they truly cant walk right through him. i'm in the minority with most of my opinions because i do not go with popular choice and on paper is thrown out the window with me.

    people can tell what they need to know within fights even if its not against the best at that weight. against champs and even lots of real contenders are good enough to have your questions answered and i watch fights over and over to see what i'm looking for.

    to be the whole package you need so many different talents, skill, heart, will and chin. so many different variables. and i nelo got a bad rap from the trout and floyd fights ...

    he beat trout clear but its hard to have a 170+ pound dude leaning all over you and i think nelo came into the ring purposely heavy like that but i think he was too heavy.

    floyd obviously hits way harder than people on here babble about and i think canelo knew he could be tko'd if he went all out. i would rather lose by tko/ko than by dec. so i would go all out until one of us were knocke down and or out. but i guess he thought differently.

    if paq fought nelo i would lay some cash on nelo by stoppage because paq lets you get off on him where floyd is all about not letting you implement your offense.

    if nelo landed anything close to the shots he landed throughout his career, like the baldi shots. paq has been him by those types plenty and from nelo he aint getting up.

    GGG different story only exciting fight in froch ( for the beating only ) but the best is ward even at 168, i would be pumped for that.

    so i a babbling so much cause i just had rotator cuff surgey and im high as phuk..

    so sorry sorry sorry
     
  10. Staminakills

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    and chitown,
    i can agree floyd is a little bigger than paq, and i mean a little. he is 5'7" paq 5'6"
    fight night they are both like 150, so floyd a little longer and paq a little thicker.

    not enough of a difference that would put them in different weight classes. floyd uses his length great. with his skill and his long arms makes him seem much bigger than paq but dude floyd is phukin tinny too. most of it is truly illisions.

    just like you can have two body builders around the same weight and 1 looks way bigger until measurements are taken
     
  11. JMotrain

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    GGG would knock him out and get no credit because Lara is a "154 pound fighter".
     
  12. Staminakills

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    agreed,
    i am a HUGE GGG fan and i wouldnt give him a lick of credit. such easy fight. lara is way too fragile to be near a ring with GGG in the building
     
  13. JMotrain

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    Lara is a good fighter but when you struggle with Angulo and Carlos Molina you are not going to beat GGG. I give Lara credit for wanting to fight him but I don't think he has a snowballs chance in hell of actually winning.
     
  14. Eastcoast

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    Rewatch Angulo-Lara, Lara's not fragile at all. He took a ton of big shots from Angulo and kept fighting back hard maintaining his discipline and focus. Even after the knockdowns, Erislandy got back up and came back hard and precise without having to hug his way out of trouble. Not the signs of a fragile fighter. Paul Williams never hurt him, Matirosyn never hurt him, so what makes Lara so fragile?

    Tell me someone who hasn't struggled with Angulo or Molina?
     
  15. JMotrain

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    Angulo? Kermit Cintron.

    Molina? Mile High.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Lara VS GGG but do you honestly think Lara would be able to beat him? Also, will you give GGG credit if he does win?