GGG vs Pavlik

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Contro, Feb 16, 2017.


  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah since I'm 77% accurate in fight predicting, that means people should listen to my opinion over yours. At least I publically state who I'm predicting for every fight, including guys you have never heard of, and you're too much of a coward to say anything other than the black guy or the Non EE guy regardless of their race or ethnicity wins over and over and over and over to the point of redundancy, no one should listen to yours.
     
  2. BCS8

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    I'm guessing those drinks were pushing 10% proof. Explains a lot of things.
     
  3. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol at the people who say it wouldn't be a really competitive fight.
     
  4. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I lean toward GGG late stoppae but it would have been a good fight for sure.

    Although I'm not a fan of saying defensive minded boxing is 'pure' boxing. But that's another story I guess
     
  5. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  6. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It´s really difficult to see how Pavlik could be competitive on this one. He was too slow and too predictable for Golovkin. GGG has much better skills and ring IQ, levels above Pavlik.
     
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  7. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I tend to agree with you, however, Kelly did have some awesome tools to work with and I have no doubt if he managed to survive past the first quarter of the fight that he'd find a window to land a straight right on GGG which would create an interesting wrinkle. GGG isnt exactly Wilfredo Benitez when it comes to defense though his is a solid defensive fighter with subtle moves that keep him from harms way. In conclusion he Kelly will find the target and his physical tools alone combined with his known determination would make things "fun" before he ultimately succumbs to GGG's measured pressure.
     
  8. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Golovkin by accumulation stoppage from 9 -11.

    Pavlik was tough but basic, Golovkin is the better boxer and puncher, plus in this fight he won't have to go looking for KP.

    Be a competitive fight for the first 3 to 5 rounds but I think Golovkin would start to take over with his power and precision.
     
  9. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I wouldnt be shocked if the scores where pretty tight before the stoppage, it doesnt take a wizard to outbox Kelly but GGG can't physically operate like Sergio and doesn't have Hopkins gritty defensive craft so he's bound to get into a dangerous exchange that may or may not cause a shaky moment or two stopping him in his tracks. I can't really envision GGG being stopped since he's never shown that vulnerability but Brook did hit him with certain shots that made him quite uncomfortable, those sort of shots coming from Kelly with greater leverage, same solid technique with greater power wouldnt be considered ideal for GGG. Just my 2 cents.....
     
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  10. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Also we have yet to see GGG put on the back foot in a physical sense and Pavlik was as big as they get at 160.
     
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  11. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I'll check boxr*c but I'm sure Kelly was about 6'3 with good power especially with his straight right with his length and height he's certain to touch GGG chin. Still Kelly was quite terrible at flowing between defense and offense and that's exactly when Golovkin would take over, during those clueless transitions he went through in a fight.
     
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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tough one to call.
    The Pavlik who was hungry and who fought Miranda, I think would be a tough fight for Golovkin.
    The Golovkin that was facing Lemieux was impressive.

    I would slightly favour that version of Pavlik, but wouldnt bet either way.
     
  13. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    True enough.
    I don't take time to make predictions for the nobodies like when Whyte vs Chrisora or Eubank Jr. Vs Nobody, but it's too easy to predict a Golovkin fight, for well known reasons.
    I tend only to predict for the big fights or the truly talented vs opponent like Garcia-Thurman (Garcia).
    Unlike you, although my ancestors are Asian, I don't always root for the Asian or hype them to the point of infinity.
    The US European descendent commentators definitely don't hype them as they do EEs, so EEs don't need my support receive enough hype until like Kovalev, they prove themselves.
    My approach is definitely more BALANCED and yields a 90% accuracy.

    Believe me. Pavlik was much too big and strong for Golovkin and would have KO'ed him. Golovkin cannot do a Martinez imitation. Oops, Pavlik is of Euro extraction. I shouldn't have made that prediction.
     
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  14. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kelly Pavlik style wise would probably be the first opponent
    that was large/strong enough and disciplined enough
    to be able to walk Golovkin down.

    Golovkin would have to take a lot of incoming and be able to
    fire back successfully to beat Pavlik. There's some size and speed
    limitations. Pavlik was beat by Sergio (at a distinct speed disadvantage)
    and Bernard (a size, speed and skill disadvantage). He was also
    given hell of trouble by Jermain (another size, speed disadvantage
    that he managed to overcome after some rough moments).

    Golovkin wouldn't have these same advantages, indeed he'd
    have a distinct size disadvantage and he's coming in with a stalker
    who jabs consistently and is a big hitter.

    That would be a 50/50 fight, I'd say even maybe slight advantage
    to Pavlik, seeing how he's handled punishment and come back
    from it with enough strength to still wreck his opponent. Pavlik
    is more fire-tested.
     
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  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    3G would demolish Pavlik early. Prime Pavlik would last longer.
     
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