GGG vs Quillin offer to be on HBO rejected by Quillin's team

Yawn.

 

You're incorrect on both points. Hopkins' last fight on HBO came prior to Hershman issuing his statements on Golden Boy. And while they'd receive compensation on the split, they would not be in a position to receive any money from the rights, royalties, or gate if they weren't actually co-promoting, and those will often be more lucrative than whatever lump sum is offered to get them to walk away. We saw all of this last year with the failed Donaire-Mares "talks," where the demand of no co-promotion didn't sit well with either party. It's usually not particularly enticing to be the B-side promoter paid to step aside; if it was, we'd see that happen a lot more and actual co-promotion a lot less.

 

I accept your surrender..

 

GGG will own Quillin.

 

Yup. Can't compete with you. Yawn.

 

Quillin never wanted to fight Golovkin.
He passed on that fight before the network bull**** and before he had a title belt.
.Golovkin fought Makoto Fuchigami in May 2012.
Kid Undercard was getting ready to fight Winky Wright and getting his **** tests dumped down the drain by USADA for some reason.:rofl

 

Sure they would. Just because K2 is the promoter of record, and HBO only deals with K2 does not inherently imply everything else you are saying is implicit in a possible deal. What K2 would pay GBP, and how they came about that figure is entirely on them.

Negotiations never even got that far though to start hashing out those details, Schaefer said "SHO or nothing". Considering the primary reason Haymon/Schaefer were ejected from HBO is for using HBO to build people then making HBO bid for their matches against SHO after HBO made the investments to make them stars - combined with the GGG/HBO contract, that basically is the same as a flat "no we arent making the fight".

Despite the fact that Schaefer said after the Konecney fight that they were ready to make the fight even if it had to be on HBO (which again implies the SHO/Quillin contract you bring up is nonexistent), and for Team GGG to send an offer. Oleg, GGG's manager sent an offer and Schaefer backpedaled.

If it was about getting the "biggest payday" they could just raise the price required to get Quillin on HBO to whatever it was they found worthwhile. This deal was not prevented by money, revenue splits, co-promotion, or other details. It was prevented by Schaefer saying "Showtime". Not really possible to spin it any other way.

 

Uh when was this? Because all I've seen was talk of impartial bids, not an ultimatum for what network any fight must be on. The latter only came from the loyal Golovkin camp.

I do agree that negotiations never advanced that far, with HBO merely issuing a statement that they don't rule anyone out for the future and stopping short of confirming they approved Quillin as an opponent for this fight.

The justifiability or non-justifiability of HBO's decision is immaterial here. The fact remains they were the ones who chose to close the door, not the other way around.

But Schaefer never said Showtime. He said let's take it to the network that makes the biggest bid. And Golovkin's manager didn't cite their contractual obligations but their specific network loyalty in response ("not going to turn from our partners at HBO), so forgive me if I harp on that particular bit of their disinterest in the fight.

I'm glad you now agree though that Golden Boy has not been involved in a single co-promotion since HBO's decision to close the door on them.

 

Should change his name from "Kid Chocolate" to "Kid Marshmallow".!!!!

 

Schafer said something along the lines of all they would be interested in is a trade. Quillin would fight a fight on HBO if GGG would fight a fight a fight on Showtime. Basically saying GGG has to fight a fight on Showtime or no deal.

Quillin's the one calling out Martinez and GGG, but it seems there is an asterisk after the callout and fine print at the bottom that reads, Quillin will only fight these guys if they agree to come do a fight on Showtime, which more or less means the fights won't take place, so the callouts are pointless... Accept to get Quillin's name in a press article and on forum discussions.

 

:good
and it's not as if quillin holds any cards in negotiations that trump Martinez or golovkin
hes a paper belt holder. that's all

 

In the event that didn't happen he also talked about a bid between the two networks as well. I agree it's bull**** from Quillin's camp, but it's just as likely so from Golovkin's too.

 

I'm 99% sure that Schafer only being interested in an open trade is what was reported on Twitter. Maybe from Kim. I seriously doubt there is any BS from the GGG camp. They are extremely hungry for notable fights and would not turn down Quillin for any reason short of leaving HBO.

If Schafer did require that deal, someone should remind Schafer that Quillin is by far the B-side (even though GGG is willing to make big financial sacrifices at this point just to get notable fights) and Quillin is also the one doing the calling out, so Quillin should be willing to go to HBO for the fight and GGG should not be required to leave HBO for a fight as part of the deal. That's just silly and sounds like an intention scuttling of the fight from GBP because they are protecting their asset, Quillin. I understand. I wouldn't fight GGG if I were Quillin.

Anyway. They also know open bid isn't an option either, if that was an idea. GGG is by far the A-side and isn't fighting off HBO.

 

The open bid is explicitly mentioned by Golovkin's manager on the Scene. And let's not pretend there hasn't been calling out in both directions. The bid isn't an option if neither side wants to maximize their revenue from a potential fight.