GGG would knock out Canelo Alvarez in a couple of rounds

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    maybe not 2 rds, but i think ggg is too strong and well schooled for canelo... the guy has had 6 times as many fights as canelo has and everyone he hits says the guy has sledge hammer fists. canelo isnt ready for someone like that. perhaps he can catch golo on the way down in a few years and beat him, but right now, canelo hasnt peaked and golo is on top of his game.
     
  2. Jim Jeffries

    Jim Jeffries Ring General banned Full Member

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    Oscar is selling him as the next big superstar in boxing.


    If he's the next big superstar in boxing put him in with Golovkin.


    Canelo has fought more pro fights than Golovkin has. He also had a lot of fights which aren't on his record.

    If someone is as good as he's proclaimed to be let him fight the best.

    That's the main problem with boxing is fighters don't fight the best anymore. They want to pad their records with guys they have the best chance in beating.
     
  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    oscar is selling him that way because he IS the next big superstar in boxing, whether anyone thinks he deserves it or not. the guy sells tickets... even after losing.

    the guy has been fighting solid challenges the last few fights so im not giving him **** if he wants to go after cotto first. he is one of the few fighters who has been on a steady diet of challenging fights and i dont think its in his nature to shy away from any fight. im sure we will see him vs golovkin in a year or 2.

    fighters dont fight the best because fans dont demand that from their man crushes. they are content with paying to watch their man beat on a guy who they are heavily favored over, so they can shout how awesome he is. how many times have you voiced a desire for ggg to go after ward? now there is a fight that would prove how awesome ggg really is.
     
  4. Jim Jeffries

    Jim Jeffries Ring General banned Full Member

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    He sells tickets because he's a ginger mexican and not because he's any good.

    Also, he's a lot like Chavez Jr. Chavez Jr isn't really any good as a boxer but he's the son of a legend so he would always sell tickets


    When i look at boxing superstars in the past like Roy Jones Jr, De La Hoya, Mayweather Jr, Tyson, Pacquiao, Cotto..... they all have qualities which make them special fighters.

    The thing is i don't see those qualities which they have in Canelo Alvarez.


    I think Alvarez is a big 154 pounder. He may be struggling to make weight.

    In reality the perfect fight for him would be Miguel Cotto at the moment

    Miguel Cotto came up from 154 to fight a shot peglegged Martinez and destroyed him.


    I think GGG has a great chance of beating Andre Ward. Andre Ward's never fought anyone as good as GGG in his pro career imo.
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i think youre wrong, hes not where he is today because he sucks. he isnt the best out there, but hes good. being ginger might help him sell tickets, but it dont help him win fights.

    what i think he has in common with chavez jr. is that they both took up boxing as an after thought, and they were still able to achieve a level of success that very few boxers ever reach. i think they both overachieved. what i see different between them, is that jr isnt trying to make the most of the opportunities they have been, perhaps unfairly, given.

    all those guys you listed, except for cotto, are atgs, they would be superstars in any era. i dont think anyone is putting canelo in that league.

    i dont think he is a big jr middle, he just has a higher fat % than most. ive never seen him ripped, even when he was a welterweight teen.

    i have little doubt that he would stop cotto.

    i agree. based on what ive seen, i think he would bring out the best in ward and i wouldnt be surprised if he beat ward... thats how good i think he is.
     
  6. Jim Jeffries

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    I never said he sucks but i said he's an average fighter. There's too many flaws to his game to make him the fighter Oscar thinks he is.

    If you look at the guys Cotto has fought. He's fought them all. He gave Mayweather a much better fight than Alvarez ever did.

    Alvarez won't stop Cotto. I can guarantee that.


    Most atgs are superstars. Which is why they were hyped as superstars due to their talents in the ring.

    Alvarez is being hyped the same way but doesn't have those talents. Golovkin on the other hand does have those talents. So he well deserves the hype and the superstar status.
     
  7. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo is average but have been fighting Mayweather, Lara and Trout by the age of 24 or so...

    What we can read here sometimes.
     
  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    cotto is a very good fighter, but not great. he will always lose to a great fighter who isnt past it. when he fights canelo, and im sure he will, ill lay a friendly bet with you that cotto doesnt see the final bell. i dont thing he sees 12 rds against the top 3 middles.

    i thing our difference of opinion stems from your perspective of how it should be, and my perspective of how it actually is.
     
  9. Jim Jeffries

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    What you said about Cotto can be said about Alvarez. He lost 11 12 rounds to Mayweather.

    Cotto did a lot better than he did.

    Cotto has movement and has power to trouble Alvarez. Mayweather said Cotto hits hard. He said Alvarez's power is average at best in his own words.
     
  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    you have to be able to judge a fighter individually. canelo will not fight cotto the way he fought floyd because cotto cant do what floyd can. nor will cotto have the same success he had against floyd because canelo will be coming at him throwing harder shots than floyd hit him with. completely different situations that will create different outcomes.

    floyd is a points fighter, he will always outpoint a fighter who cant catch him. floyd outpointed canelo but im sure canelo has had rougher aparring sessions than what floyd put him through. canelo can catch cotto, no doubt in my mind. slow ass margarito caught a much faster cotto than the one canelo will face.

    floyd is a pathological liar, he will flat out lie about anything and everything in order to make himself look good or make those he envies look bad. you cant take his word about anything, especially about the white mexican everyone seems to love more than him.
     
  11. Thunder.kz

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    I am a HUGE GGG fan. But Canelo is compact, tough, fast and skilled boxer. Also, he is short, so it will be difficult for Golovkin to punch his body. That might cause GGG some trouble. But, after 8-9 rounds, Canelo will gas out and get KOed.
     
  12. travolt

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    Canelo's strong points are his power, technique and ring generalship.
    But his slow feet will get him kod vs GGG.
     
  13. Son of Gaul

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    Sheeeeeeeeeeit...
     
  14. YearZero

    YearZero Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he started boxing at a stupidly young age wtf is your point
     
  15. Alcanelo

    Alcanelo The Spider Full Member

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    Canelo at least takes GGG to round 8 or 10. Would probably be ahead on scorecards too.