GGG's "Mexican style" image hurt him tonight

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  1. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    He won the fight, quite clearly. Outboxed Canelo. However, his fight wasn't against so much Canelo as it is about expectations. You have a guy with a reputation for being a tough, brawler dude and he didn't deliver that tonight, he boxed. And it has worked against him as much as it has helped him in the past to help with building a fanbase.

    That's not even getting into corruption etc. But I was listening to HBO broadcast today, some rounds with GGG clearly outboxing Canelo, GGG was constantly discredited for not pushing forward etc which is what people expect from him. It is what it is.
     
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  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Uh why did Abel say he was losing the fight? lol
     
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    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Probably because he knew that Canelo is getting any halfway close round. I don't know, I'm not Abel. I do think he was wrong there though.
     
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  4. sniffmybadger

    sniffmybadger Relationships are not my forte Full Member

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    Trainers do it all the time to motivate fighters, stop them getting complacent
     
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  5. sabor

    sabor Active Member Full Member

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    WE ALL know GGG isnt going to win a decision. Lets be honest here!
     
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  6. Alphafighter

    Alphafighter Active Member banned Full Member

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    Team Canelo took these fights with GGG knowing full well it would be more advantageous for them. A 36 year old fighter vs a fighter in his prime.
     
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  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep I agree but for me if he was to brawl he would lose clearly. Canelo is too fast and too cute on the inside for Golovkin at this stage in his career.

    I had Golovkin winning but he just couldn't dominate Canelo in any way, shape or form.
     
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    vassock New Member Full Member

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    A 36 year old fighter vs a fighter in his prime with bought judges.
     
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  9. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I agree, it's a bad tactic for him as Canelo is clearly VERY tough. Seems like it's impossible to put the guy down and Canelo was having an easier time landing to the body (where it's easier to KO even a tough guy like GGG). So that would have worked to GGG's disadvantage. GGG fought smart and did his thing form the outside. But corruption, media hype, bias rule the sport it seems.
     
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  10. Son Peyote

    Son Peyote ★★★★★★★★ Full Member

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    Abel performed poorly

    - Why aren't you telling GGG to feint more?
    - Why didn't they even try going to the body?
    - Where was the technical footwork advice to counter Canelo's forward pressure?
    - GGG's straight punches were landing much better than hooks. No adjustment to touch hooks & power straights.
     
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  11. CG^

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    Apply this test. If the roles were reversed and it was Canelo who boxed like GGG tonight and vice versa, what would have been said by the commentators and how would it have been scored. Perception can play a huge role in how people score fights.
     
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  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dunno, I feel he would have been robbed either way unless he got the KO.
     
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  13. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was close to putting him down in the 10th but didn't have enough in him to force it.

    I'm not happy with Golovkin's team though, yes I thought they won both fights but they had to expect this result. Maybe Golovkin just hasn't got it in him anymore though.
     
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  14. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because it's Vegas and no one is beating Canelo on the cards.

    Remember the draw against Mayweather by CJ Ross? :lol:
     
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  15. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    To be honest, I can't really blame them. They expected it but at the end of the day, if the guy has an iron chin and just won't go down and is a puncher himself who's dangerous, risking getting KO'd is not a wise thing to do either.

    I mean GGG is put in the spot where the only way he can win is if he just goes for broke from the bell and doesn't give a F about boxing just goes straight for the kill and hope for the KO or get KO'd. That's an unreasonable ask in my eyes.

    So as much as one could say "Well what do you expect, no way GGG's getting a decision against Canelo". It's not really GGG's fault it is this way. This is down to boxing powers. The sport sucks ass.
     
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