GGG's pickhammer jab and his great footwork would be too much for RJJ of 1993

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  1. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cheers Loudon, hope you had a good Christmas chief!

    We're always going to play devils advocate to the others perspective on this one, but I still think you're over rating that 93 Hopkins based on what actually happened. Case in point: your own listings of the top early 90's middleweights. Note that Hopkins is only 0-1 against this list- Roy is the only one he fought.

    It appears you're giving him a much bigger benefit of the doubt than GGG or his opposition based on what Hops actually did against the top middleweights of that generation. As in, literally, nothing.

    Here's where it really gets interesting: Jones' middleweight record against your own list is just 1-0. Hopkins.

    That's right- the only fight they had against the top middleweights of that era was against each other. Beating Toney at 168 or McCallum at 175 isn't the same thing. In fact, I'd argue it's unfair to even include Hopkins on that list given that the only bout he had against top guys was Jones and it took him 2 tries subsequent to that to even beat a top 10 caliber fighter in Mercado. But leaving him on there still means Roy only went 1-0 against the top middleweights of that generation.

    So, how does Jones get credit for ruling that middleweight era- which was undoubtedly tough- when he only fought one guy on the list? And that one guy is only listed now in hindsight because of credit given for what he'd accomplish years later.




     
  2. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    He doesn't know what he's talking about. I suggested him to watch "The Squared Circle" video that I posted @ pg 6. In and out style works against flatfooted fighters with cement in their boots.
     
  3. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    :good

    You made a valid point.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm honestly a fan of his.

    But there is a difference between movers and a 25 year old version of Roy.

    It's like those people who say Wlad wouldn't have been troubled by Ali's movement, because he beat Byrd.

    It's just a different kind of movement.

    Not forgetting the fact, that the movers like Monroe, don't have the skills or the power that Roy possessed.

    Roy was a phenom in his 20's.

    You couldn't prepare for him.
     
  5. Imperial1

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    Reading some of these comments I'm just laughing hysterically ..

    GGG has yet to be tested by one elite level opponent !

    Jones has two decisive wins over two all time greats who are 10 X'so better both fundimentally than GGG ever was !

    Keep elevating mediocrity fellas let us know when this guy gets tested !
     
  6. superconan

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    The Jones that fought Tate was ready. He was ready for anyone by that time.
     
  7. PRINC£

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    GGGturds are the new pacturds evidenced here by schooling/scarecrow aka boxing_master
     
  8. PRINC£

    PRINC£ Guest

    I wonder what Golovkin does with all the creamed panties he receives in the post from his dedicated fanbase of male groupies :think
     
  9. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have you considered that Jones only needs to get hit flush once?

    He was not packing much of a chin.
     
  10. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    This thread is depressing. How about we wait until he beats a legitimate fighter before we say he would confuse and embarrass an atg
     
  11. Steve_Fox

    Steve_Fox Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol bumlokin has only fought bumland fighters so far

    also he just ducked ward and fought a rubio leftover on ppv


    he cant be compared to atg jones
     
  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Thank you !
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Rock0052,

    It was good mate thanks.

    That's right. But that list was just to highlight the depth of the division back in the early 90's. They were many, many potentially great fights that never happened. And that was a crying shame. But the point I was making, was in response to Flashy's claim. He says that GG's opposition would have still been top contenders in that early 90's era. But guys like Monroe, Rosado, Stevens and Lemieux etc, wouldn't have done nothing against those guys. They'd probably have been keep busy fights, stepping stone fights. Regarding Hopkins, again, when Roy fought him he'd done nothing. But just looking at his attributes and his skill set, to me, that version of Hopkins is technically better than anybody GG's fought thus far.

    These discussions are unfair in my opinion. Because we can go back and look at what Roy and Bernard achieved. We know how good they ended up being. Whereas we need to enjoy the ride with GG and find out in the future. But my examples have just been used to put the hype into perspective.

    Correct. Roy never really had the opportunity to fight most of those guys when he was young, due to his father. But again, the list was just to highlight that GG's current opposition wouldn't have been top guys had they mixed it with those guys.

    Roy doesn't get credit.

    We know he didn't rule that MW era.

    Again, that wasn't my point.


    :good
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    This thread is a cruel joke. Rjj probably wouldn't lose a round to triple b side.