GGG's Punchstats were Padded

So I guess Manny Pacquiao beat Mayweather by recounting the punch stats?

 

In the 2nd gif I see GGG missing every single shot, except for the uppercut which was the start of that combo. Canelo never hit back, yes, this did happen throughout the fight. Thanks for that.

 

This:

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Is not a boxing clinic.

 

all the OG'S should've never left, this would've never happened on our watch LOL

 

@TheyDontBoxNoMore7: going to take back those blatant untruths you posted?

 

The uppercut and last jab found the mark

 

I disagree bro. That wasn't a boxing clinic from Alvarez. It was road work with flashes of brilliant boxing smattered in every round. His work rate wasn't consistent. Canelo was in retreat mode which isn't something we are used to seeing from him.

In spots Alvarez did great work but he was getting touched up by a lot of GGG's punches. The general inside the ring on Saturday was Golovkin. The fact is both missed a lot....GGG moreso simply because he was the one fighter who was consistently working and cutting off the ring.

Golovkin controlled the fight by controlling the temp, range and pace. Alvarez was reactive and GGG was proactive. If nothing of what Golovkin was doing was effective, Alvarez wouldn't have opted to fight using the strategy of back peddling for the better part of 36 mins. He would have dug in, kept the fight in the middle of the ring and used his defense to create offense. Most of the time Canelo's defense was his constant back peddling. And that was just to create space between the onslaught from GGG.

Nelo made it competitive, but not close. I don't know what his deal was? Was his conditioning not there? Was it the perceived "pitty pat" punches having more of an effect that met the eye? Or was it him just trying to mitigate risk and avoid what he thought could send him to the canvas or knock him out? I don't know....what I do know is Canelo moved around that ring and had his back to the ropes more than in any other fight he's had. And he was hit with more punches than he's ever been hit with. I can't see any of the few who gave the fight to Canelo, honestly believing he won.

 

You stated three irrefutable falsehoods about me (in bold, post #179 completely refutes the bolded parts), but you're not man enough to apologize it seems:

 

punchstats were inflated for both boxers. compubox goes through the fight once and what they tally is final.

the innaccuracies are going to be there for both boxers.
anybody can see that canelo missed just as much as golovkin, anybody can also see golovkin was throwing more..

everybody saw that and thats why they say golovkin won.

sidenote: what compuvox does well is get the ratios down accurately, but you didint go to school so you probably dont know what that means..

 

Post #179 has the quoted rounds. This was in reply to your scorecard:

You even replied to that lol, had you seriously forgotten?

 

You got problems if you with your own eyes couldn't see GGG throwing AND Landing more punches when he fought the ENTIRE FIGHT. Unlike Canelo who only fought in spurts when he decided to stop running. Have a look for yourself. It wasn't even close.

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We have two seperate evidences so to speak : we have one round, round 5, where Canelo is leading the on-screen punch stats punches landed by 5 punches with 15 seconds left in the round (14-9). We have G appearing to land a right hand right after the punch stats go off screen, that gives him 10 punches landed that round MAX. G throws 2 more punches for the remainder of the round, both miss. Then we have a final total of round 5 punch stating G outlanded Canelo 18-14 that round lol. How do we go from 10 punches landed to 18 punches landed? That's clearly a large anomaly.

Then we have other examples where G clearly misses a punch but the on-screen punch counter counts it as a punch landed.

Understand that the real-time punch stats are only on the screen for a very small percentage of the fight. The fact that we’re seeing issues like this when they are on screen is concerning. Each of these examples is giving Triple G more punches than he’s actually landing. While Compubox has been debated for years, rarely if ever I can remember is this much evidence of padding so to speak that we can verify with the on-screen real-time stats.


Look, we can both agree that we don’t trust Compubox. I wish they weren’t a part of the telecast, I don’t put any stock in them, I have thought they are very misleading for years. We can both agree on that, however the fact is that a good amount of fans use this to justify their scoring. For example, Triple G himself pointed specifically to the “Total punches landed” in the post fight press conference acting like those indicated he deserved to win the fight.

Plenty of fans use Punch stats / compubox to justify their scoring. We’ve seen it on this very site in the 24 hours after the fight ended. I don’t think the OP is suggesting a full blown conspiracy, I don’t think he knows what to make of it, all he’s doing is reporting on a very clear data discrepancies regarding the on-screen live punch stats in round 5 and the final numbers of round 5, as well as instances where Triple G is getting credit for punches landed that are clearly missing.

Since the real-time data isn’t on screen the entire fight, we only have these snippets, but it suggests that the Compubox numbers are not even close to accurate and are hugely misleading. I’ve always not trusted Compubox, but even I am shocked how a round could have Canelo up 14-9 (or 14-10 with that right hand after they went off screen) but then ends up with G outlanding Canelo 18-14. That’s completely ridiculous! And by the way that was a round that everyone seems to have Triple G winning!! If you recall, I made the argument that I was fine with giving G that round for landing that right hand with Canelo on the ropes, I made the observation that Canelo was outlanding him for the majority of the round, specifically in the first half of the round. (without even looking at the punch stats btw) And it turns out the on-screen live-stats that were on-screen towards the end of the round indicate that was true, but then the final totals come out with G outlanding him that round. That’s highly influential to the causal fan who may not be scoring it too closely and may just look at those final compubox numbers.