GGG's Punchstats were Padded

I disagree that punch stats were inflated for both boxers. Here's why : first of all most everyone agrees that Canelo landed by far the cleaner bigger more flush punches. It's easier to tell whether punches like the ones Canelo were landing in fact landed then the glancing, partly blocked pressure punches that Triple G may have landed. Canelo was landing more of the clean "easy to tell if they landed" punches vs the majority that G was throwing. So just based on that alone, inherently the punches G landed are going to be more error prone as far as seeing what landed and what didn’t. Most of Canelo’s punches were more easier to see. We know for a fact that Canelo is more elusive, has tighter defense, etc, so what’s landing on him is naturally going to be harder to determine than what landed on Triple G.

Further, based on the live punch stat overlays during the match, the only discrepancies we can observe are G being given credit for punches that he didn’t actually land. We have as far as I can tell no evidence of Canelo’s stats being inflated.

 

The **** is ridiculous, such clear denial, there's a lot of deflection going on here so as to not address your very astute observation which can easily be verified. It's convienient for G fans to come on here with the "punch stats are unrealiable" argument now that there's clear evidence of Triple G punch inflation lol. And like I said to KiwiMan, I agree with him about Compubox not being trustwrothy, it's not like what he said was wrong, but it's just so convienient to say that now that we have the evidence showing G getting credit for punches he didn't land.

We're kind of stuck between a rock in a hard place, because while I don't like using punch stats to justify who is scoring or who is winning a round, the fact is that Canelo having that punch stat lead in the 5th, a round that pretty much everybody gave to G, it's a bit eye opening in the sense that G is known to be the volume puncher, and Canelo is known as the guy who picks his spots and lands the cleaner punches. Generally the guy that lands the cleaner punches particularly as a counter puncher is the guy that usually is outlanded via punch stats. So as much as I dislike using punch stats to suggest someone won a round, the fact that Canelo was leading by 4-5 punches in that round via live punch stats is quite interesting to me.

 

I don't mind that, you have a point and you argue it clearly and respectfully.

What my #1 complaint is that @TheyDontBoxNoMore7 wrote 3 untruths about me, clearly documented in post 179, and refuses to apologize or withdraw them.

 

Clearly the reason they don't show the punch stats live on screen throughout the whole fight is because then everyone would be able to see that they are complete and utter BS.

This means the TV companies are complicit too, they absolutely know they aren't accurate, yet they show them anyway. The question is why show them at all? Is it just for entertainment purposes, a fluff piece? Or is it something more sinister, such as... they want to represent a false narrative of the fight?

 

You have zero integrity you clown. You bashed Marciano and Calzaghe calling them hypejobs because "they beat old men" yet you were enamored with Joshua after he beat a 41 year old shot Klitschko and called him the future of HW division. The fighters' concentration of melanin clearly plays a role here. KiwiMan is one of the most respected posters on this board, while you are nothing but a black panther moron pushing his racial agenda.

 

No....you're just a closed minded, stubborn moron who thinks posting like a spoiled high school girl makes him sound cool. You'll say all the same stuff when 3G beats Canelo again...troll..

 

Tell me you aren't that simple? Of course Alvarez set the most traps. He was constantly in retreat and on the move which provides the opportunities to lay traps. GGG had no problems providing the opportunities by throwing punches. Sheesh....captain obvious. Again, counter punching is reactive knucklehead. GGG maintained applying pressure letting his hands go freely so of course that allowed Alvarez counter punching opportunities. This is too easy.

Canelo was defensive the entire fight yet he landed at a similar connect percentage as GGG. So you can argue he was slightly better defensively, but not worth wasting the oxygen it takes to argue that point. You need to keep as much oxygen as possible to keep the few brain cells you have, alive.

Nelo had success standing toe to toe sometimes. More success than he did back peddling that's for sure, yet constantly retreating was the strategy he went with for 95% of the fight. Bad decision....or it was a conscious decision based on something he felt inside the ring with GGG that no one else was experiencing on the other side of those punches.

Of course ring generalship doesn't go with the guy who is ineffective with his aggression. Don't be so dense....Landing more punches, landing within 2% of the compared connect percentages and consistency in waking your opponent down over 12 rounds is more than enough to be the ring general. That's why GGG won the fight.

Again....if all the punches from Golovkin were "pitty pat" punches and weren't affecting Alvarez the question becomes "why didn't Canelo just walk through those punches and walk GGG down"?

He could have made the fight easy if he just fought the way he did against Khan, Kirkland or Liam if the offense of GGG really wasn't effective. I know it's hard, but sometimes a little critical thinking can help....in this case it's merely just common sense but I don't believe either are a possibility for you.

I've known Freddy since east side boxing and respect his opinion. But we don't agree on everything. Do yourself a favor and stop d!ck riding. You're embarrassing yourself

 

Your usual points and views are like this "black boxers = the best, white boxers = hypejobs" period. That is how complicated your thought process is. I do have big respect for both Golovkin and Alvarez. I briefly disliked Alvarez after he vacated his belt, but it is all gone after he stepped in the ring with Golovkin and performed well. More people buy Canelo's fights maybe because there are 36 million Mexican-Americans, don't you think so, genius? I don't see any other reason why the Chavez Jr fight had so many PPV buys, it was a total mismatch.