GGG's willingness to face welterweights

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who else could GG have fought on 9 weeks notice?
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    There are no lame reasons.

    Yes, both fights are/were poor. But the circumstances are very different.

    Why can't you see that?
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good

    That's exactly what Oscar and Canelo should have done.

    They should have said that he wasn't ready for MW but the Cotto fight was an opportunity they couldn't pass up.

    No problem.

    What they did was they asked for a voluntary to fight Khan, giving the boxing world the impression that they were going to negotiate for a fight afterwards.

    Then it was the supposedly unreasonable deadlines enforced by the WBC that were preventing it.

    Then they were relinquishing the belt to make negotiations easier.

    Then what?

    Then they went and signed to fight Liam Smith. :patsch

    There was no need for any of that to be played out.

    People appreciate honesty.

    Now his and Oscar's rep has taken a huge hit.
     
  4. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @Loudon you realize half the stuff you say they should of did they did in fact do and still got bashed for it.

    Alvarez and GB did say multiple times that Canelo is a JMW, that they wanted the Cotto fight more than the title, that they had no plans on moving up anytime soon, even the GGG thing wanna fight at 54/55 we can do it next wanna fight at 160 gotta wait til he moves up.
    The majority of you guys just ignored it and came up with excuses like him competing at JMW is somehow picking on smaller fighters.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again, they should never have asked for a voluntary to face Khan before they negotiated.

    They should never have asked for 155 and then said 160 was no problem.

    I know what was said. But they gave everyone the impression that they wanted GG and they would gladly negotiate a fight.

    They should have handled things differently.

    There was no need to start making claims that the WBC's deadline were unreasonable etc.

    They've brought this heat on themselves by their actions.

    You don't invite someone into the ring and say I'll put the gloves back on now, if you've no intention of doing so.

    Under different circumstances, Canelo wouldn't be getting hated on right now.
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    There was every reason to be a GGG fan before this fiasco. I wouldn't be hard on the fans or call it a bandwagon. Being a fan of GGGs before this venture ought to be no more difficult than being a fan of Hagler and Hopkins during the first ten years of their careers. You could tell the whole time that there was greatness there, but they were being shamefully avoided by everybody.

    Everything was starting to align for GGG too and for awhile it looked like Canelo would be his Trinidad/Hearns, that could start the ball rolling and get him all the megafights.

    Shame on you for blaming the fans for getting excited about an entertaining knockout artist who stays active and doesn't talk a ton of ****. GGG fans don't have anything to apologize for. Most of us are just as disappointed in the Brook fight as you are. But that doesn't mean that our earlier enthusiasm was unwarranted or that you're somehow better than us because you're too jaded to believe in heroes and root for an obviously talented individual.
     
  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    All I've seen from the GGG crowd is the same disappointment and condemnation that followed Canelo vs Khan. You guys going around calling people hypocrites just come off sounding like assholes who hated GGG all along and can't see all of the fans who were legitimately troubled by both.
     
  8. Gannicus

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    Yeah the Napoles pick was weird, but Napoles is a lock for Top 10 al time in terms of H2H.

    Duran was actually weighing 160 anyway (despite being short, fat and shot), he was still a force there.
    Leonard made his way to 160.
    Hopkins was a middleweight. Trinidad eventually became a middleweight - that's when Hopkins fought him.
     
  9. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    "guys what else could poor lowercase gee do....he didn't call anyone else so no one else wanted to fight him....poor gee hes so unlucky"
     
  10. drenlou

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    The problem is that these bandwagon fans are actually Pac fans who contested at WW, so they think MW GGG vs WW Brook is okay... but it's not. He should of picked Lara to fight, who is closer to the 160 pound weight class than Brook is.
     
  11. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    yeah...LOLOL

    lowercase gee is scared to death of lara....we all knew that wasn't happening
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Honestly man "choosing" and "accepting", it doesn't make a difference to me.
     
  13. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Golovkin did choose Brook, they've been negotiating that fight since February. The fanboys can delude themselves all the like.
     
  14. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    these delusional idiots actually think k2 was painted into a corner here....they were never actually trying to make a eubank fight....eubank is the hearn/k2 scapegoat because hes nothing more than a domestic level mw....

    they've had brook/lowercase gee in the works for months...which is why brook kept floating gees name
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's hindsight isn't it.

    He didn't choose Brook instead of Lara.

    He chose Eubank instead of Lara. But when Eubank Snr's ego went into overdrive, Brook stepped in at the last minute to salvage HBO's date of the 10th of September.