[GIF] Carnera KO Sharkey Fake?

Ali vs Foreman is a fix-

 

For the last time, that size does not make a man punch hard, the guy only got his arm into his punches, how much did his stupid arm weigh?

 

This is music to my ears of course.

You might want to extend that logic wider!

 

I don't know if you can really tell just by looking at the footage but Carnera was a really big guy.

 

That's just an illusion created by old fashioned film and cameras.

 

he began compiling an impressive total of knockout victories, many of which, however, were “fixed” fights with outcomes prearranged, first by his Parisian manager and later by organized crime figures in the United States. (Carnera was likely unaware of these arrangements.) Weighing an average of 260 pounds (118 kg), he was the heaviest world champion at the time and, at a height of 6 feet 5.75 inches (197 cm), one of the tallest.

 

Ali was a lot better than Sharkey and a lot bigger.

 

he began compiling an impressive total of knockout victories, many of which, however, were “fixed” fights with outcomes prearranged, first by his Parisian manager and later by organized crime figures in the United States. (Carnera was likely unaware of these arrangements.) Weighing an average of 260 pounds (118 kg), he was the heaviest world champion at the time and, at a height of 6 feet 5.75 inches (197 cm), one of the tallest.

 

I said he was a trainer wrestler. It seems you tried to dispute it.
Carnera himself claimed he'd wrestled on the European continent from the age of 11, "taught by old masters".
What I said was correct.
I am now pointing out that if he was doing any wrestling on carnivals and fairs and circus from a young age, taught by old hands at it, he would know how to throw a dramatic-looking but fake uppercut on an opponent in a set-up. It wouldn't take much practice on his part at all.
AND ..... the footage shows that the punch does look a bit unusual in that it may well have been a forearm, and might have in fact landed on Sharkey's upper chest or shoulders.

I'm not barking up any tree. I'm just pointing to the footage and agreeing with those who say it's not proof of a legitimate KO, and in fact leaves questions unanswered.
It could be legit, it could be a fake.

 

The evidence for his fights being fixed is very weak, with a couple of minor exceptions.

 

If he had any wrestling experience before he boxed, then it was local level stuff, and likely not choreographed.

In any event, a fixed boxing match is noting like a pre arranged wrestling match, and almost invariably the winner doesn't know that it is fixed.

 

You are making a mistake in equating professional wrestling in the 1920s with what came later. At that point in time it was actual wrestling; the fake wrestling didn't begin until the 1930s and was a response to long, drawn out, slow moving matches that often saw the participants with extensive injuries.

 

A lot of his opponents records are dubois and he looks awful in his fights on youtube.

 

I think that he looks pretty good on film.

That in my eyes lends credibility to his record.