[GIF] Carnera KO Sharkey Fake?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by reznick, Sep 27, 2020.

Fake?

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  2. It's a real KO

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  1. DanDaly

    DanDaly Active Member Full Member

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    Honestly I don't see anything fake about it and don't really know what people are looking at that think it's faked. Sharkey's reaction looks pretty typical of a fighter that's knocked out after having caught a massive uppercut. Primo put a lot of steam into it and Sharkey's head snaps right up as he was going down. Sharkey's legs went to jelly immediately, his mouthpiece is about to fall out, and he doesn't try to break his fall in any way. If he were really throwing that fight he had better opportunities rather than to completely eat a hard uppercut and hit the canvas at full force.
     
  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Perfect description.
     
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  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Carnera, Shady KO, Mysterious odd-shift, Fixed fight? Nahhhhh
     
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  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I understand that. It was example of the type of power the Mafia had and would go on to weild in the sport.
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    The New York gangster Arnold Rothstein fixed the 1919 World Series.

    Let that sink in. THE WORLD SERIES
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    No sisters.No problem with Carnera ,just with those stating he had real power and a good chin,both of which are untrue.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    No, plenty of them,and we aren't discussing the other champions.
     
  8. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But the Mafia didnt control fights or fighters through the managers guild. They didnt start the managers guild. The managers guild was a threat to their burgeoning monopoly on the sport so they infiltrated it using some of their front managers and destroyed it from the inside out.
     
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    And by infiltrating it ,controlled fighters such as Ike Williams.
     
  10. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Williams had a contractual dispute with one of his managers, Connie McCarthy, who was a member of the guild. The guild sided with its manager. A few months later Williams signed with Blinky Palermo who promised Williams he could offset the influence of the managers guild. Remember, this was still fairly early in the Boxing Managers Guild's existence. The guild had been formed basically as a union for collective bargaining purposes in order to get its managers and fighters their fair share of the radio and television rights to fights, which prior to the formation of the union they had been cut out of due to a clause that Mike Jacobs had written into the state boxing charter. Palermo, through his association with Carbo and the IBC would become a bitter enemy of the Guild because the guild was one of the few entities that could challenge the IBC monopoly on venues and air dates. This is why it was killed later by mob front managers from the inside out. Ike Williams may have been bitter about how they sided with his manager in his contract dispute but he regretted going along with Palermo was very vocal about it. He made more from his career while being managed by a member of the Guild than he ever would after and was essentially left broke and bitter when he retired from the sport.
     
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  11. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I'm aware of Williams plight having read,"In This Corner." I think I worded my post badly.
     
  12. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I looks more legitimate than Ali's KO of Liston in Lewiston, Maine. There are a lot of factors that go into outcomes of fights. Some inside the ring, some outside the ring. I love this sport!
     
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  13. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I dont think either were legit but who can prove anything?
     
  14. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    WWE forearm smash. Fake IMO
     
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  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Sometimes Primo looks sharp ... the jab that ended Schaaf looks like a pretty solid shot when you really watch it .. I understand all the back stories about injuries etc but still a hell of a jab ..

     
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