[GIF] Carnera KO Sharkey Fake?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by reznick, Sep 27, 2020.



Fake?

  1. Sharkey was acting

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  2. It's a real KO

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Those punches were not thrown with correct punch mechanics at all.
     
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  2. Conn

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    It appears from what is shown on film that Carnera/Sharkey may well have pulled a move known in pro wrestling as the "European uppercut".
    Those wrestling videos explain a very similar looking thing to how the ending looks on film, right down to Sharkey setting it up by leaning bent over, and angling his chest and shoulders into the target trajectory.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    The left hook missed and you can see as Kov`s face is hit the impact of Canelo`s power compared to Carnera`s.
     
  4. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So what? Carnera was 270 lbs professional athlete, he could kill a man accidentally with arm punch.
     
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  5. Conn

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    It wouldn't be at all hard to stage if both were in on it and the bounce off the ropes was the signal.
    Especially when one of the parties concerned is a trained wrestler.
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Sharkey most have had a glass jaw.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    lol! He had nowhere near the power Mike Tyson had, Carnera was not a powerful puncher, it takes more than size, body builders can`t punch that hard, how much did his arm weigt lol!
     
  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think there's a possibility it was fixed, but there's no way in hell they were using choreographed wrestling moves for the finish.
     
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  9. Conn

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    Well, lots of things cannot be 100% proved. This isn't a court of law.
    My opinion is that the footage doesn't show anything that is 100% convincing either way.
     
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  10. Conn

    Conn Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Why not ?
     
  11. janitor

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    They wouldn't both be in on it.

    Why would you tell a whole set of people that you didn't need to?

    Sharkey didn't bounce off the ropes like an MMA wrestler, he was pushed back, and got caught clean by an uppercut when he bounced of the ropes.

    The whole thing happens in less than a split second, which is why you have to play the footage back in slow motion repeatedly, in order to figure out exactly what happened.

    Have you even watched it?
     
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  12. BitPlayerVesti

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    If it was choreographic they must have spent a hell of a lot of time practicing in secret.

    If it wa a fix it's far more likely he just went down when he thought it'd be convincing enough, there's also be no reason for Carnera not to be trying to hit Sharkey normally, as it'd just make it more obvious.
     
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  13. Kamikaze

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    So some people choose to believe...That Carnera used a choreographed wrestling move on Sharkey and ignore everything in the fight leading up to that moment rather then just accept that a 270lbs odd man KO’d a CW....
     
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  14. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I will agree it's really hard to tell if fights are fixed, except in the most blatant cases.

    I think Gans McGovern is one were the evidence is much clearer (pointing owards in being a fix), but even still there's a good case for that fight not being a fix.
     
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  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who said that Carnera is Tyson? I just said that big and athletic man could hurt you a lot even without perfect technique. Lack of technique hurt Carnera as a puncher, but he could definitelt hit hard when he connected.
     
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