[GIF] Carnera KO Sharkey (Slow Mo)

From over Carnera's shoulder, it is impossible to know where the right landed, if at all. The left, though, definitely hit Sharkey on the way down. You can tell by the way Sharkey's head was violently knocked back.

I don't believe the fight was fixed. Jack was actually confounding Preem for long stretches. His conditioning looked sub-par from the first, and he was well on his way down by 1933.

 

If Reznik's footage has proved anything ,it is that a group of people can watch the same film and interpret it entirely differently.eg I agree that it is impossible to say that the first punch the right landed with the fist or the forearm, but I believe the follow up left missed and so does another poster you and others are convinced it landed. Its personal opinion I would agree that Sharkey was on the way down and that though he weighed a pound less for the second Carnera fight his body,[to my eyes], did not look to be as toned.

 

The film does not show Carnera's glove landing on Sharkey's chin.Carnera's back obscures the view.
If Sharkey was looking to go into the tank would he not emphasise his reaction to a punch that could be his exit?

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I repeat no one can see the punch land on Sharkey's jaw because the view is obscured by Carnera's back. Therefore no one can say with any degree of certainty if it is a fist or a forearm that lands on Sharkey .

Anyone who disagrees with you is wrong? Well several on this thread do!
I bet you didn't expect that when you posted this!

 

Just keep mugging yourself it never takes long for you to resort to childish responses.

 

What you don't get is someones right to disagree or hold a different to opinion to you. Why are you confining your replies to me, others have disagreed with you here?

 

The footage has been available since 1933 so none of this is news.

Personally I can't see which part of Carnera's hand/arm/glove connects with which part of Sharkey's head/face/neck.
I can't see it. It's an obscured view.

The era of multi-view camera angles teaches us that a what appears to be a certain thing in a less-than-perfect or obscured view actually turns out to be something else when you get the 100% perfect view.

Then again, maybe I'm just blind.

 

Just re-watched it, it was an uppercut that landed on the portion of the thumb and index finger of the glove.

Carnera was so strong, he didn't have to land cleanly to do damage. As others mentioned Sharkey did not see the punch.

 

Was Carnera a great fighter? No, but he was a legit champion with wins over Loughran, Sharkey, Uzcudun, Shaff, Gross, and Livensky. The Young Stribling fights were likely fixes, but I think the ones I mentioned before that were on the level.

After watching the films, I think Carnera had loads of guts, and was un-rated as an athlete. Carnera also had a sense of humor.

When a reporter once asked Carnera what he thought of Hollywood, he said he would knock him out too.

Later in life, Carrera owned an ice cream shop.

 

Visual perception is varied, that's for sure.

Putting the 'fixed fight' speculation aside for a moment, I do find this a peculiar piece of footage. A casual observation sees one boxer landing a hard right on the other, with devastating effect. As a boxing match, we see what we expect to see. Only our attention being drawn to a potential anomaly makes us look this event, as closely as we are.

As another poster has suggested, the single view, without the ability to examine the incident from other angles, doesn't help us to draw a hard conclusion. Carnera's right being obscured, at the apparent point of impact, leaves us reliant on Sharkey's reaction.

At this point, it really is about a viewer's interpretation.


I look at the direction of the right-hand punch (as it appears to me, to be traveling), before, at and after the apparent point of impact, as well as the position of Carnera's glove, after the apparent point of impact. These aspects, viewed in conjunction with by Sharkey's physical reaction, do not seem to reconcile all that well. That is to suggest, both the timing and direction of Sharkey's head falling backwards appear unnatural, to me, in view of the direction Carnera's right-hand punch traveled.

The punch is coming in from the side, sweeping across Carnera from right-to-left, with only a relatively slight upwards motion. Carnera isn't under the punch. However, Sharkey's head only moves straight up and straight backwards, when I would have expected him to have been forced to his right, as he faced Carnera.

After the right-hand becomes obscured, Carnera's right glove next appears in view above his left shoulder, while Sharkey is still looking downwards; his face roughly, aligned with where Carnera's forearm/elbow is positioned.

Carnera's right-hand travels just a few inches further into view before he is about to turn with his left. Again, it appears to me, that Sharkey's head snaps straight backwards, at this point, and he falls backwards. It is therefore possible that the right forearm/elbow of Carnera made contact, jerking Sharkey's head back.

The follow-up left appears to, at best, lightly scuff Sharkey on his way down. There seems to be no discernible impact of the left on Sharkey.

I can't conclude, from any of this, that the fight was fixed or not but, I do think that, on closer inspection, it is an odd-looking end to the fight.

 

Terrific post,nice to see some objectivity!