[GIF] Jack Dempsey slips 8 of Gene Tunneys punches

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    lipstick on a hog
     
  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    1. You make the opponent lose energy by throwing punches that miss.

    2. You confuse the opponent by being harder to hit.

    3. You don’t get hit.
     
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  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Jack's trunk rotation is expending more energy and he wasn't throwing punches.

    Tunny wasn't confused.

    ok.
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Again, analysis by giff has severe limitations. Tunney wore Dempsey outside with workrate, movement and the stinging sort of shots he is throwing here. However, to appreciate this winning strategy you must view the fight as a longer physical narrative than a few seconds. Dempsey performs as we should expect a world class athlete to perform but as a tactician he is in the process of losing.
     
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  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I found this gif to be most noteworthy because it wasn’t the type of pace, and grace of movement you typically expect from a fight of that era. And I thought the way Tunney punched and Dempsey slipped humanized the fight more. And also it looked badass, and slick, and exudes talent.
     
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  6. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't let my opinions of Jeffries cloud your ability to understand what you are reading.....I did not say he was a pioneer I said it was rarely seen in the big men obviously he learned it somewhere ......Janitor how can a fighter be influential if their is not record specifically film to show others the way?
     
  7. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You're saying Dempsey should have not been the aggressor and instead kept his distance and let Tunney come to him. Essentially you're saying Dempsey should have "boxed a boxer".

    That would have been incredibly stupid.
     
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  8. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Dude what point are you trying to make? Dempsey did some pretty cool **** by slipping all of those punches. What is so hard to get?
     
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  9. dinovelvet

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    And therein lies the reason why i gravitated more to what Tunny was producing rather than what Jack was. Knowing how the fights played out , you already know how his efforts in defense and on the front foot didn't lead anywhere. Which is why i assumed a slight devils advocate role in arguing why it should have been a Gene Tunny appreciation gif. But its still understandable how it highlights Dempsey's breakthrough in defense maneuvers.
     
  10. dinovelvet

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    I believe he should have come forward behind a step-n jab opposed to leading with a right hand.
     
  11. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Jabbing wouldn't have been that effective because Tunney would have definitely out jabbed him there. I think slipping was the right thing to do because it made Tunney miss and frustrated him. Again, this is just one specific instance from a fight. Things change drastically as to what he should have done when you put it into context and in terms of the entire fight and not to mention things are a lot different in the ring vs looking in from our perspective.
     
  12. Seamus

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    Yes, they were both the real deal.

    I far prefer watching heavies of this size compete than what we have today. It's partly why the cruiser tourney is so good. You have actual pace and grace.
     
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  13. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great post...I also met Frazier, Dempsey, Tyson,foreman others...Dempsey sure was lucky to have those strong, hard, huge hands...no wonder he rarely injured them and could have ruined them barroom brawling.
    Dempsey's main problem was his inactivity....certainly not talent...maybe best all round heavyweight ever...thanks
    Again excellent post
     
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  14. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ignore Dino The Trollo.

    He shouldnt even be here, he lost a ban bet to me, that he refused to honor. The idiot thought Pulev would stop Wlad.
     
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  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who needs the heavyweights of today anyway?