[GIF] Marciano KO1 Walcott with real audio

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  1. reznick

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  2. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wonderful. You can clearly hear the pop of the ko blow. Marciano trained to land that punch as his trainers noticed that Walcott was open for it as he stepped away to his left. In similar fashion Louis trained to land his right hand as Walcott in fight 2 did his shuffle with hands low.
     
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  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wonderful as usual Resnick...I'll never forget that my dad, uncle, grandmother and aunt watched this fight...mt grandmother went to the fridge for a can of beer and missed the ko..lol.
     
  4. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wonderful. Always good to see a member who appreciates and respects the history of boxing no
    matter what the era.
     
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  5. dinovelvet

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    Rock came at Joe like a bull for that rematch. I believe he wanted no more of those 13 rounds ever again.. Not sure if he said that before or after this fight.

    But look at his foot work. Patient and measured on the outside , but like a rattle snake at mid range. Rocky wasn't slow at all , he was lethal at mid range and a killer on the inside. He knew where he was at a disadvantage. A great ring IQ.
     
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  6. reznick

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    It's crazy how the 90's boxing documentaries painted Marciano as crude. The film clearly doesn't show that.
    Max Kellerman and Larry Merchant would be waxing poetry about this guy if he were fighting today. He would be the most exciting fighter around. It would be like the GGG obsession on drugs.
     
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  7. dinovelvet

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    True. You were made believe he had no skill at all despite constantly getting into the grill of some of the slickest guys that ever boxed.
    One criticism i never got was the balance issue. I always thought he had great balance for the amount of punches he threw. He was always in position to follow up. Always.
    You're going to be off balance if you miss a punch. Thats a given and has nothing to do with balance.

    Joe Louis fell onto his hands and knees in the Abe Simon rematch off a missed punch. And his balance and footwork was some of the all time best.
     
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    Exactly. For someone throwing punches like Rocky, his balance was great.
    Combined the fact with his constant head movement and angles, he was incredibly dynamic, which requires balance.

    The whole misconception people have been peddling around for years is based on a quote from Charley Goldman the day he first saw Marciano at the gym, before training him a lick. Before his pro career even started! lol.
     
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  9. RockyJim

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    My father told me the same thing...
     
  10. 70sFan

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    Wow - you can hear the thud of the punch landing.
     
  11. mcvey

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    Yes he did practice the punch but I think Walcott could have gotten up,when he heard the boos he mimed outrage at the count.A J Leibling gave a good account of it in "The Sweet Science".
     
  12. mcvey

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    No,it's based on watching his fights , the comments from ringside reporters of them,and his opponents such as Joe Louis who called him a street brawler in his autobiography.

    : "Trying to knock the challenger out with one punch, the 29-year-old Marciano was over-eager and awkward. He lunged, butted, hit below the belt, on the break and after the bell. Once, he swung so wildly that he missed and slipped clumsily to the canvas. Outboxing the champion and avoiding his blows, LaStarza managed to win four of the first six rounds"

    Emmanuel Steward,asked to assess Marciano's chance today said he was slow, too small, cut and had bad balance. Was he watching a different fighter to you?

    The revisionism of Marciano started in the mid 1960's and has continued at a pace.In his own time he was considered inferior to Dempsey in skills and a poor facsimile of him.
    I suppose some need a hero, and Rocky is a good choice for those that do ,a fine man,modest and unassuming ,and an excellent champion who ducked no body. One wonders what he would make of the mythologizing of him on this forum?
     
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    Added foot note Walcott's body did not look as toned as it t did in their first fight.
     
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  14. reznick

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    That's just listing the worst aspects of him, which can be done for any other boxer.
    We are talking about him as a fighter through a contemporary lens. Hardly mythology, or hero worship, or all that other babel.

    You are battling ghosts.
     
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