[GIF] Max Baer showing skill and reflexes with a triple jab, followed by a sharp combo, and a slip

That's fair though I'm pretty sure I've criticized Vitali before. And as far as I've seen, nobody around here tries to build up Vitali's opponents like Briggs or rusty 38-yo Sanders to make Vitali's destruction of them seem more important or impressive. Nobody is posting and raving about clips of guys like Vitali beating up on harmless, tired, overmatched opponents. Nobody here is posting and gushing over clips of recent fighters slipping punches or throwing weak triple jabs or clumsy combinations. If more of that were going on here, I'd almost certainly have a lot more critical things to say about it. But I recognize that I'm not infallible or completely balanced either.

 

Look, I don't want to diss you or anything, and I admire your enthusiasm (not to mention your great video-work!). But the idea of bringing everybody here together, in an attempt to make this forum a place where we all respect each other's opinions - that is simply not gonna happen! Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

I wonder, if you are a member of other boxing sites than this? If you are, I'm sure you can't help but have noticed, that almost every "opinion" thread, on every site, usually degenerates into mud-slinging and name-calling.

I have no idea, how it is with other sports. Maybe, say, golf fans post in an orderly fashion on their forums? I don't know?

But I do know, that in a sport where opinions are as polarized as they are in boxing, it will be impossible to find common ground.

 

Sometimes you just have to move on.

People disagree, online it often leads to insults, fall outs etc., it happens, you can still share interesting info. with each other, you can still help each other.

The internet allows some amazing things to get done, but you can't get too hung up on insults etc., it's just what happens when conversation, often passionate, isn't moderated by seeing a human face, and IRL consequences.

Rez you do some amazing stuff, and I'm sure plenty of people will be able to get you a lot of help if you want it, don't worry about it.

 

It's not a dictatorship Rez and never will be. You can't make everyone behave the way you want them too and nor can you make everyone post nothing but positives on basically every boxer ever. Most are here to both revere and scrutinize, it will always be this way. It will never be an absolutely ideal environment for each individual - ever. It is however a damned good one in here overall.

Holding this so called "mission" or whatever you want to call it over the forums head due to a childish spat (yes it was) is not a good look. Not one bit. McGrain does not owe you an apology in any way shape or form, i saw it all unfold. We all have our moments but mostly move on.

If this other forum is so amazing and respectful by all means take your projects over there if you feel such need. Not many are going to get on their knees and beg in here. I would highly doubt this other forum will stay as pristine as you say it is.

You do fantastic work in your field and have been told so umpteen times. This is not in dispute. You yourself will have to decide what to do with it.

Where many problems come in is that you only want to see and talk about the positives of boxers across all era's. I respect this i really do. It's great to have people with that attitude on board. I make a point to try and avoid criticism (and indeed agree on the facets that i can) in your particular threads because i know how you roll and respect this. Many however want to dissect both the good and the bad and are more than willing to point out any perceived bad. It's here where you get stuck.

Hopefully this makes some sort of sense but if it doesn't so be it.

 

Rez all that is fine except you leave out the fact that you drew first blood ,not me. You started w an attack opposed to expressing a different opinion. If you are going to be thin skinned then don’t start off by going Klompton. For years you’ve posted great clips and I’ve always complemented and thanked you for it. If you choose to leave that’s your choice but the same clips will end up circulating anyway so no harm no foul.

 

I feel like everyone has grown a lot and learned a lot in this thread. Blessed Be.

 

Do whatever helps you, but if you want to crowdsource etc. you'll have trouble finding places with more people into boxing history, and honestly I think you're going to get the same stuff anywhere unless you just put together a small group of likeminded people. Maybe you'd be better going elsewhere for a bit though to cool off though. There's no reason you have to stick to one place either.