[GIF] Monzon - Tonna ko...dirty punch?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Just watched the fight yesterday and was then surprised to read that Tonna caught a lot of flack for claiming that Monzon hit him in the back of the head. The tape seems pretty clear to me...

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  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nah, not a dirty punch...Tonna was always looking for an out to get an opponent disqualified, like he did with Valdez too. Monzon just reached over with that right and caught an awkward, twisting, turning opponent who wasn't averse to pulling some dirty tricks himself. Monzon was basically a pretty clean fighter TBH,...for instance vs Tony Licata, I forget the round, but Tony lost his balance for a spell against the ropes, and Monzon just stepped back to let him get his balance again. I think it was Don Dunphy who was calling that bout, who commented on Monzon being "sportsmanlike" in doing that.
     
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  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tonna overplayed all that, IMO....like he always like to do against top opponents.
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Tonna was the dirtier fighter throughout the fight and he probably overplayed that blow but I don't see how it can be disputed that it was a hard punch aimed directly at the back of Tonna's head.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just one of those things....and Monzon didn't need to intentionally fight dirty to beat a guy like Gratien Tonna.
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tonna was disgraceful in how he used to fake being fouled...see the Valdez fight...he did the same thing.
     
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  7. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He definitely did hit him on the back of the head but Tonna made the most of it. He had enough about him to claim foul while acting like he was poleaxed. He was a dirty/rough fighter himself.
     
  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Nobody's saying that Monzon needed to intentionally fight dirty to beat a guy like Tonna. But it sure looks like he beat Tonna with an intentionally dirty punch to me. He was looking directly at the back of Tonna's head and threw a punch that hit him there. It was an egregiously illegal punch. He was probably just frustrated by Tonna's earlier fouling.
     
  9. 2piece

    2piece Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He turn the back of his head to be hit, so no.
     
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  10. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tonna lay down
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    Yes. Obviously a foul.
     
  12. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Protect yourself at all times. I think I read that somewhere. Turn your back on an opponent and you'd better expect to be hit in the back of the head. Can't fault Monzon.

    Dude fell like a Tonna bricks.
     
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  13. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IMO Tonna was a winey punk; strong with big muscles but the left tit wilted when he was in with the big boys. His biggest 'claim to fame' was his big shot against Valdez that hurt him but Rodrigo was going nowhere.
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    :dealRight you are jowcol,...Tonna had a definite heart problem,...one that wasn't necessary to see a cardiologist about....he was a cheese eating, surrender ****** IMO who loved the DQ call.
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    :huh

    I don't think the expression means what you think it means.