[GIF] Primo Carnera uses his size jab, but then Max Baer turns into a savage (HD)

This clip reminded me. Did anyone see The Prizefighter and the Lady? It stars Max Baer and Primo Carnera. It was filmed when Carnera was the champ. He plays himself (Primo Carnera). Baer plays the lead role (some guy named Steve ... everyone was named Steve in movies back then).

I saw it once. Just happened to be flipping the channels. And I saw Baer and Carnera fighting, but it looked odd. Carnera was winning.

If you haven't, you should check it out just for the final fight. They filmed it shortly before the two actually fought. I think the only thing that came close to this was Wlad Klitschko and Lennox Lewis getting in the ring to fight in the movie Ocean's Eleven (back when Wlad was a top contender and he and Lewis were expected to fight each other, until Vitali lost to Byrd). But even then, Lennox and Wlad didn't act out an entire fight.

Baer and Carnera fight (and they look like they land plenty on each other) for a whole match in the movie.

It's pretty fascinating to see. Carnera gets ripped for his skills. But he seemed to be just as skilled as most guys back then. Baer is the guy who tends to look like the unskilled boxer in most matches, he just had a ton of power to cover it up. (The master of the backhand.)

 

I know it boils your blood whenever mere mortals critique your old heavyweight heroes but you're smarter than this, bruh. Maybe you need a nap or a snack or something?

 

LOL! Reminds me of that ridiculous misguided thread you made "warning" the classic cheerleaders that there were evil people like me lurking around to tear down old boxers. As I explained then, I'm far more interested in writing about recent fighters, tbh.

Same tired tactics from you...We've been over this before at length but again: (1) please try to stop strawmanning people who disagree with you; (2) please know that your efforts in finding short, cherry-picked and often-unrepresentative GIFs of action don't disprove the obvious--that there have been developments in strategy, tactics, and technique over time.

 

Fascinating.

 

The primary goal of a fighter's defense is to protect their chin. Bear accomplished this against Carnera. Do you have a counter?

 

Of course I do. Protecting one's chin may be a primary goal of a fighter's defense, but avoiding flush punches that can cut, swell, blind, distract, or disorient is also very high up there. Therefore, the most basic, well-understood principles of sound defensive boxing would have dictated that Baer make an effort NOT to eat Carnera's thudding jabs, perhaps via head movement or parrying.

Do you disagree? Be honest.

 

Bear was only stopped once for facial injuries in 13 losses near the very end of his career. Cuts, blinding, and swelling did not seem to be a problem for him.

As for being distracted or disoriented, Baer would tuck his chin and take a shot to close the distance against a boxer. Schemling and Carnerna's landed jabs to his forehead were of little consequence to the damage they took in return.

As for the Carnera fight. There are instances where Baer does elude the jab with movement. But also instances where he takes a jab to the forehead for the opportunity to smash his right hand home.

 

Carnera was very muscular for someone that tall, especially before the popularization of weight lifting and other things. Baer's attack was crude but certainly effective. Bert sugar called him possibly the hardest hitting HW ever after earnie shavers.

 

Would you though, favour Carnera to be able to beat both Klitschkos in h2h match-ups?

 

Carnera was by far stronger than both Klitschko´s or Fury.

Carnera would push Klitschko around like a ragdoll with his 85 inch Reach.

 

Thanks again rez,...another fascinating bit of evidence that these greats of the past had skills, unlike what the bumper crop of modern day "experts" may think.