[GIF] This rediculous knockdown by Sonny Liston

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I thought his behavior would've changed since putting him on ignore last year but sadly that doesn't seem to be case. He's obsessed with tearing down Liston and especially Foreman.

    And we thought Chok was bad. :lol:

    In all seriousness, I think JT's comment regarding mental counselling was spot on. He definitely seems to have some mental health issues that need to be treated.
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

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    Yes that brilliant little stutter step to make sure of the coup de grace. Note also the lightning fast movement coming forward when the first right hand knocks Bethea flying back. Instead of going gung ho he leads.........with a jab! Going hard but still with patience and calm. He gets inside Bethea's attempt to punch his way out of trouble with a big left and the end is nigh. He was certainly a finisher and the only guy to ever stop Bethea........and in less than 70 seconds.
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Second to none at finishing opponents. I'm always impressed when I see Liston going for the finish. Most guys go balls to the wall looking for a KO. Liston remains calm, composed, and picks his shots wisely.
     
  4. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    That was the heavyweight version of Roy Jones teeing off on Vinny Pazienza in the 6th round...
     
  5. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cold, indifferent execution.

    An interesting character is Liston, for sure. I have not really dived very deep into his life, times and career - but I do enjoy reading the bits and pieces I pick up about him on this Forum.
     
  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Bowe would have done similar to Bethea
     
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  7. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Bowe could put his punches together quite well.
     
  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    While the punishment he dishes out here is savage, the first thing that stands out to me is he looks very counterable.

    Look where his right and his left go after he throws them, at least when he opens up to barrage his opponent. He throws a right and brings it back below his chin. He throws a hook and brings it back low.

    Now maybe he had a sense of security that he has his man hurt and that Bethea isn’t in any shape/position to return fire, but if he did that with a Joe Frazier, say, then Joe is going to counter that right (even if it lands flush) with his left hook; likewise, a Larry Holmes or Holyfield or Lennox Lewis is going to drop a right hand over that hook in return.

    I’m not saying any Tom, Dick or Harry beats Sonny, but I do see major openings. Whether they would win in a firefight or not would have to be seen, but I don’t see the perfect technician some seem to think Liston is here. I think any decent trainer scouting this would drill the opponent to fire back from the same side (right over left, left over right) whenever Sonny opened up.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    It would certainly be pretty scary going in against him to say the least.
     
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  10. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There’s a certain irony that in his prime Sonny was seen as some prime evil monster with a huge punch as though he was simply a slugger.
    In fact what you see is a beautiful boxer with a great jab and every punch in the book.
     
  11. Spreadeagle

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    Totally agree Swag.Liston really was a superb finisher.That's what Earnie Shavers should have
    done when he virtually had Mr Holmes out on his feet.
    Raw power is great but it really works well when combined with the composure of Sonny.
     
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  12. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Excellent observation.
     
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  13. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Well......perhaps not in the first round but of course an in-form Bowe was a killer.So it's not a
    bad comparison.
    However could Bowe,as good a puncher that he was,remove 7 of Bethea's teeth with 1 punch ?
    Liston's punching power was nuclear.
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    If Bowe went out with a mind to destroy, I don't think him stopping Bethea in a round would be unreasonable
     
  15. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed.