[GIF] Tony Galento hits Louis with two monster left hooks

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    You namecalling is almost as brilliant as your syntax.

    When you have some actual insight to the matter, let us know.

    He actually nailed the issue. The difference is not as great as you contend.
     
  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Yeah, the contrast is pretty stark. And the thing that stands out most to me in most of their other pictures is the enormous difference in their shoulder/traps/back development.
     
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  3. foreman&dempsey

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    ( call me when you can talk a single decent phrase in spanish)
    actually i did tons of times .
    There is no worse blind man than the one who doesn't want to see

    yes it is. i repeat

    There is no worse blind man than the one who doesn't want to see
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    BTW, was Galento really 5'9? I've seen sources that list him at 5'8, which seems pretty plausible to me.
     
  5. ribtickler68

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    Really? One is an obvious joke picture, the other is a pose designed to show off Tua's muscles.

    Both are stocky, chunky guys. One had the "advantage" of weight training and god knows what "dietary supplements". But in your and F and D's world, the modern guy must prove superior.

    In this world everything the modern guy does is superior. Wild punches that Fury or Lewis threw are forgiven but the same punches by Galento or Marciano are proof of their ineptness.

    Galento and Tua were both tanks. They both had great left hooks. They both fell short against the best.

    They were very similar in a lot of ways.
     
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  7. Seamus

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    I found 3 Tales of the Tape on Galento in my records. They are all consistent. Here are some notes.

    Fist size 13 1/2"-14". Bigger than Tua, Vitali, Wlad, Marciano, Tyson, Dempsey, Johnson, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, same as Holmes. Not bad for a lil' guy.

    Wrist 8 1/2".. Bigger than Marciano, Louis, Lewis, Rahman, Holmes, Foreman. Not a measurement we often get in modern times.

    Thighs 27"... Before you say he was a fat *ss, this was a measurement when he was 26 years old. Thighs are not an early accumulator of body fat on men. Waist and the accompanying gut are first. 27" is fairly huge for even the largest of heavyweights. Bigger than practically everyone you can name outside of Tua's and equal to Tyson's measurements.

    Chest (expanded) 49 1/2". Yeah. That's just freakish for a guy his height.

    And it's not like he was a total mesomorph. He had a 72" reach, longer than he was tall by at least a couple inches.

    Galento was just a bit of a freak. There's no way around it. La verdad es la verdad.
     
  8. reznick

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  9. Walter Sobchak

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    Tua would destroy Galento inside a round and it would be horrific.
     
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  10. Seamus

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    Happy 18th birthday, Walter.

    I actually agree that Tua would destroy Galento. He was a better boxer, a quicker puncher and had a more controlled approach (sometimes to his detriment)...
     
  11. mrkoolkevin

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    Sorry, missed this. I don't think that the natural differences in their frames are quite as stark as F&D has suggested. My main point though, which you seem to accept is that Tua bulked up with far more muscle/higher-quality muscle mass compared to the weight that Galento put on (whether we attribute it to weight lifting, "supplements," or abstaining from beer benders). The point is that if you saw them standing next to each other, you would think that Tua was far more muscular and in better shape.
     
  12. Seamus

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    Tua was certainly the more professional. Galento always bragged about how much money he made, not how skilled he was. He also had ancillary enterprises, bars, shows, entertainment ventures. He was a prize fighter firstly, an athlete somewhere way down the line.

    Again, look at Galento's fist, wrist, chest and ankle measurements. He had abnormal dimensions... other than his beer gut. Check out this picture of him in his slightly younger days. Look at those hams. I wouldn't want to get hit with those.... http://www.heavyweightcollectibles.com/public_html/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/img_00033.jpg
     
  13. LXEX55

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    This was written by boxing referee and former amateur boxing star Ron Lipton:

    "...Galento was from Orange NJ. I trained for awhile at Sam Magee's Ringside Gym which was right behind the Normandy Inn. Galento came in there for years and was Sam's best buddy. They loved to booze it up.

    Galento came into the gym and watched me spar with a gigantic muscular light heavy-named Sugar Cliff Ryan whose back was made out of steel cables. I banged him all over the ring exploding and raining shots on the big man and dropped him with a vicious left hook. He was a wide puncher and I ate up those kind of guys. Galento was smoking a big cigar watching and talking with Sam who was supposed to be in my corner for a tv fight coming up at Symphony Hall in Newark.

    Galento comes over and I believe he was starting to suffer from diabetes which later cost him his leg. He was truly a rough and scary man an absolute fearless animal who you would have to kll with an axe to stop on the street. He ruined another local fighter crippling him for life, a nice man by the name of Don Petrin.

    I knew all these things and Tony would almost never admit if anyone beat him so help me God, including Louis and Baer, BUT, there was a tough amateur champion from that area, who was a Diamond belt, Golden Glove and everything else champ, called Elmer "Shrimp" Palardy. He was a Capt of Police in West Orange and his son Mike, me and the Capt had many brawls of legend in the area. He told me that the two hardest hitters he had EVER seen in his life bar none was Frankie Zamaris who stopped Melio Bettina in two, and Tony Galento whose left hook would actually kill you if he kept landing it solid before the ref could save a man.

    Well Galento, says words to the effect, "Hey Kid, Sam tells me you he thinks you will go all the way, so I'm going to show you how to shorten that hook up ok, hit em on the belt line, and bring it to the ***** when the ref is on the other side etc."
    Well, just like in the Gentleman Jim movie with Errol Flynn, when Flynn goes into the Olympic club and hands his cigar to Alexis Smith to hold while he boxes with the English instructor, Galento just hands me the Cigar while I still have my gloves on and takes his jacket off.

    I'm balancing the lit cigar on my glove with Sam watching, drunk out of his mind, Galento and him lit, and this old fat man with slits for eyes, wallops this heavy and I do mean hard as a rock bag hanging there with a left hook, bare knuckles, and it made me shudder.

    The punch would have killed me dead on the spot. It was so vicious, fast and hard that to this day it seemed to me harder than David Tua's hook who I refereed twice up close. That bag almost broke in half, it doubled the bag in mid air and we had some mean hitting heavyweight in that gym that could punch and they NEVER came close to what this little fat man did while drunk, out of shape and old let alone without warming up.

    I saw Sonny Liston in person workout in Philly and in preparation for the 2nd Ali fight and on films. Galento's hooks was harder trust me.

    If Marciano in his superb condition at 185 took on Tony it would be a bloodbath. If you had the right ref in there like me, I would let it go to the finish. I go with the Rock on condition, integrity, determination and *****. Galento had the hook in spades, unparalled viciousness, and every dirty trick in the book from heeling, thumbing or whatever.

    He made Fritzie Zivic look like a Fairy. He lifted Joe Louis off his feet, and the most amazing beating to me was the job he did on Lou Nova who was big, strong and in shape. I have a hi lite of that fight and it looked so brutal it is beyond belief...--RON LIPTON"
     
  14. ribtickler68

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    Fair enough. I'm just saying that they are basically the same body type, and both are power houses.
     
  15. reznick

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    This is amazing. I would love to see that Galento Nova fight