[GIF] Wilfredo Gomez's low blows v. Azumah Nelson

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, Bazooka Gomez was a dirty fighter...correction...a dirty GREAT fighter. It's very admirable how the stoic Nelson kept his cool throughout all this and simply issued his beatdown in reply.
    This much said, i still feel that Gomez was the better fighter P4P, ...a brilliant fighter who could do it all...especially when he confined his activities within the enclosures of the 122 lb division.
     
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  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Yep, no questioning his greatness or his dirtiness. I'd probably give him the p4p nod over Azumah too but I would have to think about that some more. Interesting what a effect moving up 4 pounds had on his fights though, considering that so many people around here treat 40 pound differences as irrelevant when doing heavyweight matchups.
     
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  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    https://youtu.be/wnswUuvkRGg

    Check this out. The first Jose Napoles-Armando Muniz title fight. The 11th round begins at 39:40 and around the middle of the round, with his title slipping away, Napoles starts zeroing in on Muniz' twins. If it wasn't so painful to the viewer it would be laughable how the corrupt referee Ramon Berumen just stands there. Watch the body language on Muniz, how he actually tries to parry the low blows coming his way with his hands. Watch how he actually starts lifting his leg trying to protect the boys. I lost count how many low blows were landed by Napoles. I once asked Muniz what was going on with Berumen and he said "he was just standing there waiting for me to retaliate so he could disqualify me." As it turned out Berumen found another avenue when the doctor stopped the fight in the next round. He said he warned Muniz in the 3rd round and the 5th for butting, so that constituted a technical decision win for Napoles. An absolute crime. But again, on topic, you have to see the low blows in that 11th round.
     
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  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Thanks for the post and the write-up! Going to try to check out the whole fight some time this week.
     
  6. BoxingFanMike

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    Those were low, I had forgotten the 'combos' to the groin. Ouch.
    Nelson didn't seem bothered. Gomez could probably have had the decision though, if he could have stayed away for the last 2 rounds, as Nelson had started to hurt him again around the 10th after Gomez had sort of owned the middle frames, at least from the judges scorecards. His bodywork didn't slow Nelson at all, and he put in a lot of good legit shots, too, not just the ones that landed in the sub basement....
    Excellent fighters, both. Forgot how much I liked to watch Nelson, like a surgeon, I was hoping to see him against McGuigan, would have picked Azumah, but it would have been a good one.
     
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  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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  8. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here's my scorecard on the fight.

    Round 1: 10-9 Nelson
    Round 2: 10-10 Even
    Round 3: 10-9 Nelson (I think Al Bernstein gave this to Gomez but he missed more than he landed - his timing got better as the fight went on)
    Round 4: 10-9 Nelson
    Round 5: 10-9 Gomez
    Round 6: 10-9 Gomez
    Round 7: 10-10 Even
    Round 8: 10-9 Nelson
    Round 9: 10-9 Gomez
    Round 10: 10-9 Nelson
    Round 11: KO for Nelson

    Through 10 completed rounds I had Nelson up 97-95. I believe officially that Gomez was leading on two judges scorecards and even on the third. I can assure you that the puerto Rican audience carried a lot of influence. Two of the best officials I've seen - **** young and Harry Gibb - seemed rattled in San juan. Young had Gomez leading in this fight and Gibb let Gomez get away with murder in the Zarate fight. Also here you can see Octavio Meyran would not take points from Gomez for continuous low blows. Anyways, that's me on my soapbox for today.
     
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  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Very reasonable scorecard :good I didn't score it round by round but I'm pretty sure that I had Nelson up by a couple more.
     
  10. Gannicus

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    Most ever would be Salido vs Lomachenko. Not one point deduction. Over 40 low blows landed (and very blatant).
     
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  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Ahh, great call!
     
  12. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nelson gave to Gomez....what Gomez had done to all those little guys at Superbantam when Gomez for some reason seemed always the "bigger" guy.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    Yeah i thought it was poetic justice. Gomez was pretty dirty and loved to play the bully hand. I quite enjoyed The Professor dismantling him. Great fighter in his prime tho, immense.
     
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  14. scartissue

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    When Eddie Ndukwu fought Gomez, Ndukwu's people and the TV people said that Gomez got on the scale and had a crowd of people suddenly converge around the scale so that no one had any sight of the scale. They said they heard the clunk of the scale which would indicate too heavy, but some official yells out the contracted weight and Gomez grabs a cup and 'downs' whatever is in it. This way he can't get back up on the scale if anyone protests. One of Ndukwu's people manages to get the cup and it is clean. No residue of anything in it. Moreover, Albert Davila had the exact same story when he fought Gomez in San Juan before he even won the 122 lb. title. Believe me, the Puerto Rican officials and likely the WBC really took care of Gomez.
     
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  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I think Gomez’s dirtiness came up again in a recent thread...