Gifted offensive fighters

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  1. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Which fighters come to mind when it comes to offense?

    For me, it's Oscar De La Hoya
     
  2. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson. He is the best combination puncher ever, in my opinion. Look at this segment from LaMotta 6 at 30:57 .
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    That's a left jab, right uppercut, left hook, right cross, triple left hook, right straight combination. That's a flawlessly chained 8 punch combination with full power behind each shot, performed in like 2.5 seconds, all while pivoting to create new angles and openings.

    Try pulling off such a complex combination with proper weight shifts and see how difficult it is to perform. Robinson had several other such moments in the Ring. Then there's his nasty body work with the right hook from long range to keep Jake cautious, uppercuts and overall body work on the inside to tire him out, all in that same fight. The way he would move LaMotta into huge punches by subtly using his forearms, the double left hooks he would set up from tight spaces, etc. There's nothing he couldn't do offensively.
     
  3. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great choice
     
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    clinikill Active Member Full Member

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    Ray Leonard for sure. Had good power, pinpoint accuracy and blazing speed.

    Julio Cesar Chavez was fantastic offensively. Great combination puncher who aimed at both the head and body, with good speed and precision that he could maintain in the later rounds.

    Also Joe Louis, who had great hand speed and power that could topple buildings. In my opinion, the most offensively gifted heavyweight of all time.
     
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  5. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Totally agree about Joe Louis.His closest rival (among the heavyweights ) is Mike Tyson.
    Sugar Ray Leonard might well be the greatest offensive fighter PFP.
     
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    José Nápoles. Fast, accurate, sharp counter puncher, good punching technique, and one of the best combination punchers in boxing. His punches flowed like water.
     
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    Least bias SonnyListon> post but he was honestly amazing. His unique use of the jab fit for his monstrous preportions is beautiful. I love watching him keep his jab extended to pin down his opponents and then hit them with a right, its so awesome.

    for the sake of keeping credibility id also like to shout out Foreman. So many casuals think of him like Wilder, just swinging his arms around. But this is VERY untrue. Mechanically he was beautiful and had very cool tactics. His cutting of the ring was amazing and watching him either decimate or rip down defenses is always mesmerizing.
     
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  8. META5

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    Oscar had a very good jab, a great hook and great handspeed - a lot of his flurries were pitty patty and accentuated with the left hook.

    His combination punching cannot compare with SRR, SRL, Duran, JCC, Napoles, Louis, Tyson, Ike Wiliams etc.
     
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  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always found Adrien Broner to be the most offensive fighter I’ve ever seen. Does that count?
     
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  10. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Aaron Pryor.
    One of the most creative combination puncher I've seen.
    Relentless aggression with the tools (Fast hands/feet)
    to make it work.
    Was a master of turning a boxing ring into a phone
    booth.
     
  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Napoles
    Robinson
    Leonard
    Louis
    Ross
    Hearns
    Sanchez
    immediately come to mind
     
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    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    De La Hoya?
    It's your opinion. And no doubt Oscar was a talented fighter, but I can think of at least 20 off the top of my head that were better.
    Let's start with Joe Louis
    #2 Mike Tyson
    # 3 J.Jackson
    #4 Ray Robinson
    # 5 Ray Leonard
    # 6 Felix Trinidad
    #7 Jose Napoles
    # 8 Aaron Pryor
    #9 Thomas Hearns
    #10 Roberto Duran
    #11 Julio Chavez Sr.
    #12 Sal Sanchez
    #13 Eusebio Pedroza
    #14 Carlos Zarate
    #15 Marvin Hagler
    #16 Prime Hector Camacho
    #17 Antonio Cervantes
    # 18 Roy Jones Jr
    #19 Bob Foster
    # 20 Hank Armstrong
    #21 Jack Dempsey
    #22 Floyd Mayweather Jr. ( Jr. Lightweight version)
    #23 Shane Mosely ( Lightweight version)
    #24 Miguel Canto
    #25 Ruben Olivares
    #26 Alexis Arguello
    Not in any order. And some that could be added
    Like Donald Curry
    Evander Holyfield before ( the juice made him stiff)
    Pepino Cuevas
    Michael Spinks at Light Heavyweight
    Dwight Qawi at Light Heavyweight
    Kid Gavilan
    That's over 30 without thinking to hard.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm an Oscar fan
    But offensively there were better more complete fighters.
    Also think of different attributes of offense.
    Joe Frazier may seem less talented than Oscar, but could his skill set have been more effective?
    Same with Cuevas?
     
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  14. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Terrible Terry Norris…Speed …Power…Skill….and the mentality of a pit bull
     
  15. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dam right.
    No exaggeration at all.
     
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