Gilbert Odd's heavyweight rankings

Note.Odd did not write the FOREWORD to" In The Ring And Out",it was written by J B Lewis.

 

You are correct, Odd justified his placing of Burns by saying,
"He defeated in turn the champions of England,Ireland and Australia,boxing in London,Paris,Sydney and Melbourne thereby becoming universally accepted as world title holder."

 

No one alive has seen the Johnson v Hart fight but I believe that had the premier referee George Siler been the third man in that fight Johnson would have been declared the winner, Siler himself called the decision ."a very curious one". I think the odds were stacked against Johnson before the fight had even started.
The way that Johnson toyed with Burns who beat Hart handily just reinforces my take on this fight.
NB. Johnson never said that quote, that is taken from," Mes Combats" the many times translated and adapted piece of rubbish that a hack writer cobbled together,not," In The Ring And Out," but you keep repeating it if it pleases you, no one else gives it any credence.

 

**** list.. Even for one constructed in 1985

 

I have read it ,and own it.There is an acknowledgement to me in the book.

This is how Adam summarised it after producing all the ringside reports.
Page 354.
"It appears that most fair minded writers felt that Johnson deserved the verdict ,or no worse than a draw though several writers agreed that the decision was justified.A draw might have been a more appropriate decision,even giving Hart the benefit of the doubt as a result of is gameness."
You said Odd wrote the foreword,[ it is FOREWORD and I put it in caps before so you would notice it you thick cu*t].
He didn't write it, J B Lewis wrote the foreword,I have the book open on my desk as I type. Odd did not write," In the Ring And Out," he wrote an afterword to it and edited the book which was first published in 1927 di*k head!

 

This is a pack of lies these were not genuine title defences they were fights in which Burns took on two men on the same night.

There was no mention of the underlined being title defences in the post fight reports.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:713456


The 2-0 fight in France you refer to is also incorrect because we don't know how many fights Jewey smith had had at that time.
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Tommy Burns

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Neuilly Bowling Palace, Paris, Paris, France L KO 5 10
referee: Dr. Phelan
World Heavyweight title
Western Times - Monday 20 April 1908
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Simon Broadbend London, United Kingdom W PTS 4 4x3
1908-03-21

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Mike Crawley

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London, United Kingdom W KO 3
Smith had a number of fights which still have not been documented--this was not his pro debut
You remember Jewey Smith ,the guy you tried to claim was a South African Jew, though he was born in Aldgate, London and was C of E ?



Burns first genuine defences were against:
1.Flynn 29-7-12
2. O Brien 85-5-12
3 .O Brien 85-5-13
4.Squires 19-1-0 5.
5. Moir 12-3-0


BTW. What standard were these defences by Jeffries?

John Finnegan 4-2-4 Just been kod by Ruhlin being floored 7 times
Joe Kennedy 10-3-3 [his sparring partner who had one more fight after, this being kod in 4 rds by a young Jack Johnson and quit the game]
Jack Munroe 8-3-2 A hyped novice.:think

 

This is all gobbledegeegook and as such not worth responding to.
Burns first title defence was against Jim Flynn, you are in a world of your own,and thank Christ for that!