Gilberto "Zurdo" Ramirez is underrated

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  1. BustedSaint

    BustedSaint Country Member Full Member

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    I doubt Gilberto will compete again after he threw his own towel in. He gave his best, but was was levels behind Benavidez.
     
  2. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This thread aged like sour milk.
     
  3. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    how is barrios better

    I’ll wait
     
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  4. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    barrios won a secondary wba belt and defended it one time

    then won a secondary wbc belt in another division and defended it 3 TIMES BUT BUT THE LASG 2 WERE BACK TO BACK draws, one of an old as dirt Pac-Man

    and you think that’s better or the same as to what Zurdo did?

    clown
     
  5. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    Why the **** do you keep on comparing him to Barrios.? Barrios is an example of an average boxer making it in the game. You stated average boxers can’t do what he did. Zurdo beating up can isn’t anything impressive.

    Just look at his pathetic run at cruiser. Beating Bilam-Smith, Dorticos, and Goylamiriam. That is your argument? Just come out and say uou are his biggest fan boy and move on.
     
  6. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think out of all the fights Ramirez has had in his career, I’ve seen highlights for maybe two or three. I’m not some huge fanboy of his. What a ridiculous statement. Get off my nuts.
     
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  7. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i’m sorry you came up with a terrible comparison between two Fighters that you think are both average, whether you like Ramirez or not, he’s far better than Barrios and he’s accomplished more than barrios.

    and trying to cheapen my argument by saying I’m a fanboy of one of the fighters is even dumber. I can list you right now which fighters I’m a big fan of and which ones I’m not. Ramirez is definitely not on my list.
     
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  8. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    Again , crushing cans doesn’t make you special. I have always been a fan if hi fights. He brings it in every fight. I was only one if the few defending Zurdo in his fight when people said he quit against Benavidez. But that doesn’t make him anything other than an average fighter. His size is what have gotten him by.

    And wtf are you talking about get of your nut. Your dumbass responded to me. Proven you wrong and now you start crying? Man just ignore my post and dont respond to me.
     
  9. DoctorJones

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    Actually Zurdo isn't bad
    Just one loss against Bivol and after that he did pretty well in the cruiserweight division, he is probably still third after Opetaia and Benavidez
     
  10. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    senile

    nothing you said proved me wrong

    it’s just your opinion
     
  11. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    “his size”

    lol

    Yes, some fighters have better physical traits than others, it’s called genetics
     
  12. DoctorJones

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    Zurdo had a win on CBS who himself had wins against boxrec current HW nr 7 and 10 Okolie and Riakhpore
     
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  13. PopPellegrino

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    A prime Keith Thurman got beaten by a 40 year old Manny Pacquiao, so I don’t see how he “did good.” I’m comparing two approaches to show that standing in front of a faster-handed opponent is the wrong tactical move. Ramirez probably wanted to put on a show for Cinco de Mayo instead of boxing smart.

    I still think he’s underrated and could have beaten Benavidez if he had fought the way he did against Bivol; mainly on the back foot with consistent level changes.
     
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  14. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao is a Top 10-20 fighter ever and Thurman finished very strong. He was largely taking the fight to Manny in the second half...and he lost 7-5. Zurdo, whose prime himself, lost to a bloated CW in dominant fashion. Humiliated, really.

    The two fights really arent comparable
     
  15. PopPellegrino

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    At the end of the day, both lost their fights, which is why it’s comparable. Keith Thurman losing to a 40-year-old Manny Pacquiao while in his prime and undefeated did similar damage to his career and was just as embarrassing. I bring this up because, like Ramirez, Thurman didn’t use his footwork to move and stay out of range. Instead, he stood directly in front of Pacquiao, which is a bad idea because of Pacquiao's explosive hand speed and combination punching, similar to David Benavidez’s hand speed and combinations. I believe Lennox Lewis pointed this out in the commentary for the Thurman vs. Pacquiao fight.