Give Bernard Hopkins His Dues

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  1. TG1

    TG1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In this era of ducking and money talks, we should appreciate Bernard Hopkins' determination for going back in with Dawson.

    If he had waited, Hopkins could have got it on with someone else and still made a ton of money. Deep down, Hopkins knows that Dawson is a nightmare stylistically and, at forty****inseven, he is still going back in with him.

    Dawson may be his mandatory but Hopkins is bigger than any title belt and could have ducked this.

    There will never be anyone else like this guy, he is astonishing.
     
  2. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    He shouldn't even be fighting anymore at his age :lol:, never mind willingly tracking down the very best Light Heavyweights in the world. He has his flaws and weaknesses just like anyone else, but the guy's a certified badass through and through.
     
  3. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I said the exact same thing in another thread.

    After beating Pascal, he could have retired on top. There wasn't any need for him to accept Dawson's challenge. And after that disastrous incident, again, there wasn't an overwhelming demand to step back in with him. Stylistcally, Dawson's a bad fight.

    Full respects to the old man.
     
  4. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    All the talk of "Hopkins fears Dawson, he never wanted to fight him and looked for a way out" has been rightfully exposed as pure nonsense
     
  5. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins,like many other old timers,is in denial.It's over.
     
  6. sabsman

    sabsman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    did he not get payed for his last so called fight..? as he will get payed again in the second fight but this time he will say i ****in tripped on the matt logos...are they legit...or my corner stool is to low...i hurt my knee. or something like that as usual, great fighter but his shananagins are getting old...as he is to.
     
  7. Alacrity

    Alacrity Member Full Member

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    Until he does it again in the rematch.
     
  8. Ren

    Ren Active Member Full Member

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    tbf a lot of his injuries these days relate to his age. He would proabably have not popped ou this shoulder when falling if he had been 25, but with all the muscle mass attrition in the tiny muscles that bind the shoulder to the arm being irreplaceable at his age, he is just asking for more injuries. Not just around the shoulder but all over his body. The reason he gasses out against Cal and Co is that hes been losing those tiny rib breathing muscles and hence shi stamina for over a decade now, and he simply cant tune up those muscles, no end of weight training will replace them.

    In particular, once a shoulder is popped it gets easier to pop out in future. Thats just one of his injuries he carries -the man is really walking wounded and shouldnt beallowed anywhere near a boxing ring.


    So admiration is due but also a recognition thats hes doing an Ali - hes putting his future wellbeing on the line for no reason other than to prove a point that hes already proved. In other words, the biggest impact that Hopkins is making by fighting on is to not us readers or Dawson, but to himself - and its where bravado becomes madness.
     
  9. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is actually a great post, but you have to question if Hopkins is not simply delusional to keep fighting young guns like this.

    Anyway, if he wins, I will turn into the worst Hopkins nuthugger there ever was.
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wont believe the fight is happening until Hopkins is in the ring with Dawson. If Hopkins does go through with it, then fair play to him, but it seems last time Hopkins was looking for a way out and found it.
    Has there been any proof of the injuries Hopkins claims he had against Dawson?
     
  11. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    If it weren't for PEDs hopkins would have been gone a long time ago
     
  12. Ren

    Ren Active Member Full Member

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    the xray of a disconnected shoulder would be pretty conclusive imho.
     
  13. Villain

    Villain Active Member Full Member

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    Years ago sure, but today? Screw Hopkins. He is the only fighter I hate on and I do it because I feel he is both bad for the sport and ripping off the fans with his BS antics.

    He isn't ducking because he wants/needs his belt to negotiate any decent fights going forward.
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Was there one produced to the WBC?
     
  15. Ren

    Ren Active Member Full Member

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    you need to ask them, mate. but one thing is for sure, an x-ray of such cant be faked.

    There are only a few fractures/breaks in the body that can be faked as far as I know eg. inner bone of the wrist. All the others show up on an xray,and a disconnection especially is very visible.

    It would look something like that on x-ray, as you can see, its obvious even to the untrained eyes that the top of the arm is sitting in the little cup where it meets the shoulder, its dropped below it and is 'in' the ribcage.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Luxation_epaule.PNG