Give Haye some credit: He gives the fans what they want.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Taylex, Feb 2, 2009.


  1. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye as a contender should have fought his way into the heavyweight division.

    Not talking and carry around pictures to provocate.


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  2. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most fighters fight a few tomato cans in their first 10-15 fights but HAYE fought Carl Thompson in his 11th and that is more than most do at this stage of career.
     
  3. superkopite

    superkopite New Member Full Member

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    Thompson was a brave fight, but due to his previous "fights" was not ready
     
  4. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    I dont know why people are critising Haye, he was in a lose, lose situation soon as he stepped up to heavy, when he moved up to heavy he was always wanting to fight the best and be the heavyweight champ, (which people belive is a con and say he just wants A big Payday)

    and if he fights a few monty barretts people will say he aint testing himself and he's padding his record and wont back up his talk of wanting to fight the best,

    Love him or Hate him just gotta respect jhim
     
  5. Buggo

    Buggo Active Member Full Member

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    Ultimately boxers gain respect for what they achieve in the ring, and the calibre of fighters they come up against. So let’s look at Haye’s record in a little more detail.

    We can forgive him for fighting a few bums and journeymen early in his career. All boxers do it, its part of a learning curve. Of course criticism is justified if a boxer continues to pad their record when they have reached 20-0, but Haye has not done this.

    Haye’s only defeat to date came in his 11th fight, against the vastly more experienced Carl Thompson (32-6). Thompson was a dangerous boxer who had been in the ring against a significantly greater class of opponent. We got 5 rounds of pulsating boxing, with Haye mainly in control, landing many bruising shots on Thompson that a lot of boxers would not have been able to take. A lot of credit should go to Thompson who soaked up the pressure well before taking his chance against an exhausted Haye.

    In Haye’s 16th fight, he took on Alexander Gurov for the EBU CW title. Gurov was a well seasoned fighter, who’s only defeats had come when challenging for the WBA & EBU’s CW belts. It is worth noting that the CW division was more competitive in Europe than on the other side of the pond (and still is). The result, a 1st round KO for Haye.

    Haye’s 1st defence was against unbeaten Danish prospect Lasse Johansen (14-0). Haye scored an 8th round stoppage against an opponent of similar experience. His 2nd defence was against Ismail Abdoul (27-9-1), an experienced campaigner who had already shared the ring with the likes of Wlodarczyk, May, Fragomeni, Maccarinelli & Adamek. Sure he was no world beater, but still a credible match up for a 18th pro contest. Haye proved he could go the distance in a 12 round shut out. The 3rd & final EBU defence came against unbeaten Italian Giacobbe Fragomeni (21-0). Fragomeni is a technically sound boxer, who has since gone onto win the EBU CW title, and is also the current WBC CW belt holder. Fragomeni only defeat to date is his 9th round TKO loss to Haye.

    Haye then stepped up to HW for the 1st time with a blistering 1st round TKO of Tomas Boznin (37-1). Then Haye went back down to CW, to face the divisions’ undisputed no.1 Jean Marc Mormeck (33-3), in front of his own fans in Paris. Haye proved his mettle to rise from the canvas in the 4th round to win by TKO in the 7th round in a great fight. Haye was now World Champion in his 21st contest, proudly displaying the WBC, WBA & Ring magazine titles.

    His next contest came against WBO Champion Enzo Maccarinelli (28-1) in a huge battle of Britain unification contest. Enzo is a well skilled boxer with stamina and power in abundance and I have no doubt he will become World Champion once again. None of this fazed Haye, who annihilated him inside 2 rounds.

    Haye then announced he was stepping up to HW for good. His opponent was Monte Barrett (34-6), who despite being widely acknowledged as a ‘gate keeper’ was still a credible opponent considering the step up in weight. 3 of Monte’s 6 defeats came against Wladimir Klitschko, Hasim Rahman (for the interim WBC title) and Nickolay Valuev (for the WBA title). Barrett came to the UK off the back of 3 resounding early KO victory’s fully in the knowledge that a win would virtually guarantee another title shot. Haye destroyed him, scoring 5 knockdowns before the ref called a halt to the fight in the 5th.

    These are the facts, and Haye should be judged accordingly!
     
  6. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree!
     
  7. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks
     
  8. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very fair and well balanced analysis.
     
  9. Buggo

    Buggo Active Member Full Member

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    Win or lose against Wlad, Haye will still get my respect for wanting to fight the best!