Give me examples of when this has happened before in boxing history...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, May 1, 2010.


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  1. horst

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    I read in The Ring magazine last month that 18 of the 20 experts polled had backed Oscar De La Hoya to beat Manny Pacquiao.

    Now, other than to diehard Pac fans, that win is pretty much collectively written off as being meaningless. I really don't want this thread to turn into an argument over whether this collective view of the fight is correct or incorrect, that's not the issue here, the fact is that win is not valued by most people and I think we can all agree on that.

    My question is: when else in boxing history has a truly overwhelming favourite (18/20=90%) being totally dominated and beaten, and yet the boxing community writes the win off as being of no real value???

    We have been trying to think of another instance which fits this description accurately and can't. Has this ever happened before?
     
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  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    No one new how DLH was going to **** himself up by dehydrating himself so bad he needed IV to keep him alive ;)
     
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  3. horst

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    Erm, yes I am aware of what happened, thanks. Completely and utterly irrelevant to the thread though. Do you actually have any answer to the thread question at all?
     
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  4. loginistooshort

    loginistooshort Active Member Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe vs Jeff Lacy
     
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  5. realdeal561

    realdeal561 Boxing Addict banned

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    Shut up
     
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  6. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Oh stfu

    even if DLH came in with only 1 arm, the majority would of still picked him over Pac
     
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  7. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dlh wasnt so shot look what Pac didi to hatton and cotto to other bigger fighters , demolished them also


    Pac was just that good that nite
     
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  8. horst

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    (a) Nowhere near 90% of people thought the unproven Lacy was going to beat the experienced Calzaghe, nowhere even close.

    (b) That win hasn't been written off to anywhere near the same extent as Pac-DLH has been, that can't even be debated really.

    It's not a terrible call, but doesn't really fit the description IMO.
     
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  9. horst

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    Great post. Come back soon :good
     
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  10. TheGreat

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    The Tyson vs Spinks fight was huge and quite a few folks thought Spinks could win BUT that was more like 60-40 Tyson or 50-50, alot of people give Tyson very little credit for it. I really can't think of any other instance, Jones-Tarver 2 was a shock but Jones wasn't quite as heavy a favorite due to the last fight.

    I see fights were guys win and than you get the hindsight BUT nothing Like Pac vs ODLH.
     
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  11. simon850

    simon850 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl

    As soon as I saw De La Hoya on fight I turned to my mate and said BET ON PACQUIAO NOW.
     
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  12. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    **** off with that ****


    but no for the life of me i cant remember another instance where one fighter would have been such a favorate yet beaten badly


    the bigest upset i can think of would be buster vs tyson but he didnt dominate but he did ko him so id say that would be the closest
     
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  13. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    I always hear Margocheat****face was a heavy favorite to beat Shane.Does anyone know the actual consensus as to how heavy a favorite he was?
     
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  14. loginistooshort

    loginistooshort Active Member Full Member

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    Are you sure? Lacy was hot property and many people even in the UK doubted Joe Calzaghe would be win against a young, hungry fighter. If it wasn't 90% then it was pretty high.

    I definitely remember checking up on predictions for the fight and Lacy was an overwhelming favourite.
     
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  15. horst

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    You've kind of missed the point amigo. This thread isn't about the biggest upsets. Douglas got a whole load of credit for beating Tyson (and he richly deserved it, by the way) so it doesn't really fit on this thread.
     
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