He had good fundamentals and everything but lacked chin,speed, heart and stamina...he didn't like to train. There'a a story that Dundee have seen Liston few months before the rematch preparing for a second fight with Ali, he was in the best shape of his life, ripped and training in combat boots but the fight was postponed, and Dundee claimed that Liston he have seen is not the same man that fought Ali in the rematch. He looked like he aged a lot and he was not in good shape.
Penmanship: 4/10 Math: 2/10 Science: 1/10 PE: 10/10 Lunch: 11/10 Uses Time Wisely: 5/10 (actually this is 5 to 10, which is the number of years I think he was sentenced to one time)
To be fair, your academics probably wouldn't be the best if you were born to an abusive family as a slave in the middle of no where.
You think Jack Johnson or Sam Langford had better chdhood than Liston or easier life? I don't think so.
100% on board with these rankings! Sonny was a HELL of a fighter--and it bears repeating that he was a LOT more than a slugging brute in the ring. Liston was an excellent ring tactician (Ray Arcel was effusive in his praise for Sonny's boxing skills.) It's a shame that the two Ali fights tarnished Sonny's legacy to the extent that they did--but sadly--that's how most people remember him. IMHO he's easily a top-10 all-time HW--perhaps even top-5 at his best!!
Reaction speed 8/10 Movement speed 7/10 Strength 10/10 Chin 9/10 Intelligence 8/10 Physical genetics 10/10 Durability 9/10
Slow...predictable...telegraphed punches..."Quitter"...You know...REAL boxing historians ...people who have written on the history...who covered major fights over the years...don't have Liston as one of the greats...Bill Caplan has Sonny #11 on his list...in Ring magazine...he barely made the top 10. He has never been thought of as an all time great...because he 'QUIT"...now...lots of you guys have him "Top 5"?...too many trips to the Cannabis shop I guess!
Yep, Your post is so full of crap it's difficult to know where to begin. Two of the greatest historians in boxing history,Hank Kaplan and Herbert Goldman,have rated Liston as the second greatest heavyweight -champion in history.The great Emanuel Steward rated Sonny Liston as possibly the greatest heavyweight-champion in history.The great Eddie Futch had Sonny firmly in his all-time top 10 heavyweight-champions.But hey,what do these guys know ? Oh my word you really are making an utter fool of yourself.To condemn Sonny Liston because Bill Caplan rated him ''only 11th '' on his all-time list while the Ring magazine had him rated as the 10th greatest heavyweight-champion is just plain daft.To be rated in the top 10/11 heavyweights of all-time is still sovereign proof of Liston's greatness.If anybody is smoking wacky-baccy it's you ! As for Sonny Liston's courage well yes here we go yet again.Sonny showed immense courage in many other fights.Sonny is no more of a quitter than Roberto Duran or Vitali Klitschko is. I'm beginning to wonder if you're a troll or a genuine idiot.
Mike Cannon advised me to no longer engage with you, so ill leave it at this. Stop replying to my threads. Your unwanted here.
Yep, perhaps you should heed Mike's advice bro.This guy is pathetically obsessed with defaming the great Sonny Liston.