Give up my dream?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Henk kader, Apr 4, 2021.

  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Euro title is not easy. If I do know what kind of sparring some lads had before this.
    One guy: he had in the ring 23 lbs heavier this day than he Undisputed champ. Another dude, this day was 17 lbs heavier than he and he was then 3-1 in world title fights. To add: he had used also other sparring partners who were paid by him, it is not that cheap.
    Might be more expensive than you might get from your first pro fights, let's say 3-6 first pro fights and boxers are good and they beat.
     
  2. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze No Fairy Tales• Full Member

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    I barley made sense of that- I would also like to say it was meant to be inspiring.
     
  3. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People often underestimate euro title boxers level.
    I might use name calling, I think about sparring for you might better understand if name calling is used. As westerners usually then better made sense.
    After Usyk, Makabu and Hrgovic in the ring for sparring, sense will be better.

    Also boxers experience who fight for euro title might be undervalued.
    One from such " low euro level " as is mentioned in forums regards to euro title, had defeated future cotender for World Title and 2 boxers with pro boxing records 15-0-0 and 17-0-0. You might get such level boxer for 10 rounds in the ring for " just euro title ".
    Maybe you wish to get EBP title, and then 12 rounds with referee and judges foreigners and you are in the ring vs some boxer from Russia with pro record like 18-0-0 or 17-0-0 in the ring.
    It is easier to discuss how low value does have titles like British title, EBP, WBO euro title than to get this.
    And you also need fights record and ranking to fight for these titles.
     
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  4. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imaginable career point: you step up to fight with such kind of boxers for this " not meaningful euro title ".
    Boxer who had stopped boxers with 8-0-0 ( 8 KOs ) and 11-1-0 ( 9 KOs ) fight record. He does hit very hard and already does have experience with hard hitting boxers and had stopped them.
    You are placed with this for 10 rounds to fight with.
    Maybe " pillow fisted " boxer with record like 16 or 18 wins and just 50% stoppage wins. Moving boxer with good legs.

    If such boxers will defeat you for euro title, a lot of fans will call you as bum, journeyman, hyped up etc alike in their comments.
    You might be called as a bum even if you will loss very close decision. Some fans are very harsh and gladly post comments not only in forums, also in sport news portals and youtube.
     
  5. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze No Fairy Tales• Full Member

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    Uh- K
     
  6. chiliwicket

    chiliwicket New Member Full Member

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    Hopefully you can take something away from this little story.
    When I was young I played guitar in a small town. I was the best. Far and away the best. But there was no one there to challenge me and make me better. When I moved away and joined other bands I was always the worst. Every time.
    I guess what I'm saying is - move. Go someplace where you're surrounded by people better than you and strive constantly to outdo them. Being the best in your hometown where no one cares about boxing isn't going to help you go pro. It won't even help you get sort of good. If I could do it all again I'd have moved at age eighteen to someplace where I could play with - and learn from - the best. I don't know where you live, but they say Belfast, Ireland, is the boxing capital of Europe. You should get there, even if you have to walk. You're 16? If I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't think twice about it. It's not too late for you.
     
  7. Henk kader

    Henk kader New Member Full Member

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    thank you bro
     
  8. JagOfTroy

    JagOfTroy Jag Full Member

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    You can earn a living in boxing and not have to be the world champ.
    I know and have trained with professionals that work day jobs during the day then go to the gym at night.
    They'll pocket a couple grand per fight though the purse is getting smaller and smaller nowadays.
    But, boxing is always about playing the odds so you'll never know your chances till you take your shot.

    Oh, and we don't all end up with mutilated faces and brain damage. :nonono
     
  9. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If not bearing in mind difference between fulltime pro, a gym rat or part time pro.
    There usually are 3 types of guys in pro boxing: A side guy, away corner guy and more rare cases guys to fill undercards.
    Boxer is a brand that needs to be build up to earn with him more. Part of guys ( larger % in pro boxing are away corner lads ) are opponents and their earnings will reduce when they accumulate more lost fights in fight record, drops down in ranking.

    The same working pro boxers. Some are working shift jobs in comfortable for them days, maybe 4 shifts 24 hours each per 1 month in jobs like security etc. There are pro boxers who are working in gyms. For lad who is working 37-40 hours each week job not related with sport is not easy to compete with such gym rat.
     
  10. Devon Dog

    Devon Dog Member Full Member

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    Im a 50 year old Granddad and I never give up on any of my dreams !
    I have just finished my 5 am 3 mile run often I do more miles but today I did 3

    Keep the training going stay in contact with other people that train and box via social media (live the life ) be a big part of this site :)

    When the lockdown is over talk to people in your local community about starting a club when I was young this town was small and our boxing club doubled up as the running club and it worked really well as we all trained together

    Good Luck
     
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