Given that Vitali has not lost to Lewis and Byrd, where would you rank him all time?

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  1. Jared

    Jared Active Member Full Member

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    Let's say I knocked out Vitali, Wlad, Tyson, Lewis, and five ATGs..where would you rank me?
     
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  2. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In psychiatric hospital.
     
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  3. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The reason why so many people are giving you **** in this thread, is that some Klit fans will begin to bridge the gap between 'what if' and 'we should assume' when they begin to talk about Vitali.


    Only a matter of time.
     
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  4. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    depends on your nationality, usa #1, european just inside the top #20
     
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  5. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If I'd say anything to Larry Merchant on live HBO, I'd treat it seriously. Besides Emmanuel Steward wrote in his book that Vitali was the main reason Lewis retired and Lewis himself told him that.

    I don't say "give it to him". I say - look at the facts as they are and admit he's on Lewis level so not beyond top 20 atg ;)
     
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  6. uraharakisuke

    uraharakisuke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali's greatest achievement is losing to Lennox.

    He's not on Lewis' level.
     
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  7. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis turned down scary money for the rematch from what I've read so that should tell you someone wasn't as confident as his fans :)
     
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  8. Alien

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    Vitali did not lose vs Lewis and Byrd.
     
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  9. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Top 10 easily.
     
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  10. Gadje

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    :rofl
    Brilliant!
     
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  11. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not really, but I do think Vitaly would win if they fought again.
     
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  12. Fighting Pride

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    I don't count them as real losses, so it wouldn't effect much in my estimation. Byrd fight is insignificant, Byrd TKO9 really appears like a joke on both their records. Lewis fight, had Vitali been allowed to fight on and knocked Lewis out in the 7th, would've placed him a few notches higher, lower level top 10 most probably.
     
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  13. crookedterro

    crookedterro New Member Full Member

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    If Vitali beat Lewis then there would have been a re-match. And how would Vitali have won that first fight? An assumed Vitali victory creates too many ripples and thus is extremely difficult to use as consideration of where he would be ranked in this imaginary scenario.
     
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  14. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My all time great list;

    1) Duane Bobick (beat norton, holmes retired 50-0)
    2)Vitali Klitschko (tko8 Lennox Lewis)
    3)Henry Cooper (beat ali and liston)
    4)Lennox Lewis
    5)George Foreman (beat ali)
    6)Buster Douglas (beat holyfield and bowe in addition to tyson)
    7)Joe frazier (beat ali 3 times)
    8)Ali (lost to frazier 3x, foreman and cooper, i know i am probably overating him)
    9) Haye (beat wlad, vitali, I know you probably think he is underrated here but vitali was old when haye knocked him out in the 4th)
    10) Zora Folley (went the distance with ATG cooper, beat liston and ali and patterson, but is 10th because of his other losses to lesser competition)
     
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