Does this change any opinions on Dempsey/Willard? A big part of the reason why people dismiss any foul play in that fight, was the test Boxing Illustrated did 50 or so years later, which "proved" that those handwraps would not be of any benefit to the boxer. However, what Margarito and Tito's trainers may have done surely proves that there is a method of wrapping the hands, which wouldn't have a negative affect on their fighter. There has to be a different method of illegally wrapping the hands, than the one tested by Cleveland Williams. This cannot work and there is no possibility than in 2009, the same illgeal wraps are being used. Which makes me wonder that if there is a different way to illegally wrap the hands, and it only has a beneficial affect on the fighter using them, could this same technique be the one that Jack Dempsey allegedly used 90 years ago?
I'm assuming ,given the fact that most classic posters dismiss outright the possibility of Dempsey plastering his hands against Willard,they similarly believe that Tito and Margarito are totally innocent of these charges. They should be in the General forum courageously defending Margarito's reputation and trashing Mosley's trainer Nazim Richardson. :yep
If we figured out how to put simple pieces of bronze onto a mans naked fist to increase his punching power without hurting their hands you better believe the same can be applied to a mans even more protected fist.
The circumstantial evidence surounding the Willard Dempsey fight suggests that his gloves were not loaded. Nat Fleischer amongst others inspected his wraps. It is likley that Dempsey had more than the regulation amount of tape on his hands.
Whats also forgoting in thsos days, the gloving is taking place in the ring. Hell if you find a copy of the 40 plus min of the fight. You get to see the gloving of BOTH fighters in the ring. Kinda of hard to sneak something in, with cameras rolling ete. There is even a pic I saw of Dempsey in his corner before the gloving, but he DID have his wraps on. Nothing.
This content is protected See nothing thing in one hand wraps?? Nothing in the other?? I think the charge of Dempsey's gloves should be dropped. That and the entire gloving of the fighters is CLEARY on the film, should give the charge less if any credit at all.
one of the most disproved contentions in boxing... the plaster of paris hypothesis was laughable to anyone who had ever worked with the substance, knowing it would crack to a powder on first contact. Also, the fact the wraps are still known to exist and contain no such substance. furthermore, the fact that willards seconds were there to observe the wrapping and the donning of the gloves. oh well, i guess some people are desperate for idiotic fodder to rehash...
Willard went to his grave swearing that Dempseys gloves were loaded. Later in life he confronted Dempsey on the matter. Dempsey replied: "Alright Jess. You won". And that was the end of the matter. Later Dempsey gave Willard a job promoting a brand of whisky usiong his name and Willard would tell anybody who would listen that Dempsey was a bum and that he cheated. When Dempsey was asked why he didnt sack him he said: "Poor old Jess needs the money".
Dont think Dempsey needed to have a arugement with Willard over this. Its just sour grapes on Willard's part. Try telling Joe he lost fights 2 and 3 vs Ali lol.
I've done arts and crafts with plaster of paris at school.I know it crumbles.Would it increase damage to an opponent before it disintegrates? Maybe a fighters wraps provide a reinforcing structure to the plaster,like iron rods in a building.Also,you have to consider the possibly of cement like structure in a fighter's hand wraps. So you believe Margarito will be vindicated? The career and reputation of a potentially innocent man is at stake! Also,is this gentleman lying here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Resto "In 2007, Resto apologized to Collins' widow, Andrea Collins-Nile, who is suing the state of New York for not protecting her late husband. Resto also told Collins-Nile that Lewis placed plaster underneath his hand wraps, greatly--and illegally--increasing his punching power. Combined with the removed padding, this meant that Resto had been hitting Collins with rocks for 10 rounds. The hand wraps had never been confiscated. .["6
It's possible that Margarito was using a new kind of plaster like substance that wasn't around back in 1919. Anyway, the only people that still recite that theory about the Dempsey-Willard bout are people that really, really want to believe it for some irrational reason or another, as all logic points to it being BS.
